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Heli
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Dana Pretzer June 11 with Jossy Mansur TRANSCRIPT
NOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE
I wasn't able to get the feed from the beginning, so picking it up several minutes into the broadcast.
Dana:
When you have a credible witness, it's only as good as a credible investigator who can use this information to solve the case. Does ALE have a credible investigator now working on this case. We've all seen what's gone on
Jossy
They do have some good ppl. Ppl judge them by this case. The ALE from all the cases I've seen them solve in the past 32 years, in this case I'm not satisfied with the quality of the investigation as far as the answers we've gotten. I do think they have good investigators, good interrogators, lot of info from these suspects but I don't know why they haven't acted on it.
Dana;
e-mail questions...what is known about Joran's background and his asscoiation with Kalpoes. These 3 seemed to have formed a friendship, they didn't attend same school and not were not from the same socio economic background.
Jossy
It's hard to determine, just 3 kids, they must have met somewhere in a night club or casino.
I know the night Natalee disappeared all of them were gambling at the casablanca at the Wyndham, he was there with "DeSanto"(?) (sp), he gave very interesting statements, Deepak joined him at the table, Guido was with them also. Joran was participating in a poker tournament, they continued to gamble.
It tells us at that point they had a very strong friendship. When it began I don't know.
Dana:
Natalee and a group of girls from MB went to the Excelsior between 9 and 10 pm...Joran was already seated at opposite end of the table from Natalee. An older gentleman was seated to Natalee's left engaged her in conversation Have you seen the video, is it Paulus, has anyone enhanced the video to try to determine that?
Jossy:
I have seen the video and the man looks very much like Paulus, to be able to confirm that 100% is very hard, the video is taken from high up, you don't see the full face, you see the glasses, the receding hairline.
Dana:
At 1 a.m. the bar is closing, Natalee walks outside, some say she left with Joran and walked to the back parking lot, could she have confused Deepak's car for a taxi
Jossy
Two different versions of her leaving...one says she was leaving with Joran and another one said she was with Joran and Deepak and they were guiding her. It's hard to determine from the witnesses b/c the versions are so contradictory. No one can deny that Natalee disappeared while she was in the company of these 3 suspects.
Dana
Have you or your ppl talked to locals at the bar, do any of them remember seeing Joran there, remember him leaving with a blond
Jossy
Many people, one of the assistant bartenders I know personally, said they left together...she did get into the car with these 3 people.. according to one of the two versions they guided her to the car.
Dana:
Do you know, was the van der SLoot house ever completely searched, the house, the grounds
Jossy
It was never completely searched, the house was not searched I know that Joran's apartment was searched, many things were taken out and whatever happened to the things we don't know, because we never got any answers.
Dana:
Hi you're on the air. Red is here
Red:
I would like to say to Jossy, thank him from myself and many members of scared monkeys for his efforts in trying to find out what happened to Natalee. He's been maligned along the way, he's never acted like a spokesman for the aruban government the police or the suspects. That's what media is supposed to do, question, investigate and find out what happened. He's done that every step of the way, he's had tireless efforts.
I do have a question; in the very beginning Jossy said that this isn't normal for Aruba, for their police and we have to think that ppl have gone missing, they may have been aruban, there have been crimes over time but the real question is, why was this so drastically different. Why did they not arrest the 3 suspects last seen with Natalee on Day 1, what made ALE act in a manner that is so far outside the norm of police protocol. Many ppl just think it was botched, but something that truly has to be answered is why the police veered off the path
Jossy:
I think the police felt very uncomfortabe from the beginning. A man who works for long time, an active member of Justice Dept, Judge .... the police were working with him in solving other cases, they were concerned about having Paul in this, he was so active for so many years .... ( I lost the feed .... buffering)
...some kind of relationshkp with many of the police officers .... the FBI were involved from the beginning as onlooker from behind the glass...we would have solved the case a long time ago if the FBI took the case.
I think it was very uncomfortable position for them, they gave too much consideration to Paul van der Sloot.
Red;
I would like to say to Jossy that we truly do appreciate his undying efforts in trying to find a conclusion. It behoves the family and aruba, he has a vested interest in trying to get to the bottom of it....he doesn't want to have tourism continue to decline.
If they had just done the right thing, we wouldn't be here right now.
Dana:
Jossy, 33 years in the newspaper business ever had a case like this
I just lost Jossy, the phone lines are wonderful aren't they.... hold on a second
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| concernedmother
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:14 pm |
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Thanks Heli. You are the best. I dont know how you do it.
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:20 pm |
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Jossy:
No, none whatsoever. we've had other ppl missing, we worked with foreign police officers, but nothing like this
Dana:
We use the term bizarre, disappointing, if you were to put one word to this case, label this case with one word, what would it be
Jossy:
I would call it grotesque.
Dana:
Hi you're on the air
Caller:
Many reports from Gerold Dompig said that Natalee is deceased. He's made that assumption, but what is he making that assumption based on?
Jossy
On the many interrogations with the suspects. Natalee disapeared while with J2K's and he's also basing it on the fact that there is no evidence to prove that she is alive or dead, but from experience and investigation they done, they assume from all the facts that she is no longer alive, although she may be although there is no hard evidence that she is dead.
Dana:
Caller:
From Massachussets, I was wondering about the painted rocks, why ppl were painting the rocks, the police were in there with white paint
Jossy;
Recently I saw that tape, a friend sent it to me, they are marking a spot for investigation, what they found in the first visit they wanted to come back. Whether they did come back or not we don't know, we're investigating that.
Caller:
Did that have to do with Natalee?
Jossy;
Hard question to answer, we know some of the people involved, we'll approach them this coming week, at this point I don't know what they were doing, they were marking off the place or whether it's related to the Natalee case.
Dana:
That is one of the more bizarre things.
Caller: Louisianna, what is the general population have felt about this case, you mentioned it was unusual with the police, are the ppl feeling the same way
Jossy:
Many feel the same way, they feel like I do it should have been solved a long time ago. They have sympathy with Beth that she lost her daughter, they are mad because of this case and the tourism. The majority want this case solved.
Dana:
Bottom line is ppl want it solved, in America, Canada, Holland, Aruba. Everyone has had enough including the family.
JossY
The population wants it solved, it has had a negative effect on Aruba's tourism and they would like it solved and concluded
Dana:
How much has tourism in Aruba been hurt
Jossy:
Percentage between 15 to 20% down from the usual tourism we get at this time.
Caller:
The painted rocks, that's the visiblity team out there...the boy from the Visibility Team was arrested and many of us from the blogs feel there's a connection there. On June 10, the rocks were painted, the same time there was a report ....
Jossy;
I can answer that some ppl who belong to visiblity team, they were put into existence to give more security to tourists. Some ppl belonging to that team, if it has relation to detention of GVC it's hard to say
Caller:
A lot of coincidence by the dunes and the rocks, we think that should be looked at more closely
Dana:
You have to admit this painted rock situation has been bizarre to say the least
Jossy
I honestly admitted that I've seen this tape only recently, the last few days, it's very strange they are painting the rocks and the sand with white paint. One of the photos they seem to be painting the sand or marking it, leads me to believe they are marking spots to come back later for whatever reason
Dana:
I've had Joe Huston from TES, we talked about the search itself, I'm about the search itself. Were TES handcuffed in their efforts to try to find Natalee?
Jossy
There were many obstacles put into the way of those organizations. TES did a magnificanet search in aruba, they did the best they could with very little equipment that was allowed in. They are planning to come back in the future on the ocean, which is where they should be searching
Government politics has handcuffed this case
Dana:
Tell us about politics in Aruba, is the PM up for election?
Jossy;
It will be an election issue....the party that wins 11 seats makes a coalition with someone else....the ministers are appointed not elected.
Dana:
I want to get to a couple more e-mail comments.
Joran and comments from attorneys, about him being innocent. Without getting yourself into a jackpot if you don't want to answer. Lawyers always come forward to defend their clients, a lawyer should try to get their clients off. Should a lawyer be saying that their client is innocent without providing proof of who is guilty
Jossy;
His job is to defend, with whatever means he can put his hands on. But that doesn't give the lawyer the right to come up with unnecesary comment and paint his client as something he isn't, like background or character.
Joran is in Holland studying, I don't know what he's doing. The Kalpoes are quiet, they don't give interviews. I think they're smarter than Joran.
Dana:
I agree, there's been too much publicity. What are your thoughts about Joran coming to the US and doing all that media
Jossy;
I think it was very stupid of him.. His lawyers in ARuba told him not to do that. He should have followed the lead of the Kalpoes.
Dana:
If I had $1 for every lie or inconsistency, I'd have quite a few dollars.
Jossy;
You would have quite a few, thousands. One thing keeps piling up on another, the lies I don't know what it's all about. I don't know what they think to gain with this. he gets himself into more and more trouble. Let the judge decide when the case comes forth.
Natalee disappeared while in the company of J2K's, period, you have to take it from there.
Dana:
If there was a poster in Aruba that attracted tourists to come to Aruba where they would feel safe, it would have your picture on it Jossy. You've done a magnificent job as a newspaper man to help the family, help aruba and get some answers.
Jossy:
I thank you very much, we are definitely interested in the answers. I want to see the family with some peace of mind, to having the right answers to what happened to their daughter.
Dana:
You're certainly doing God's work in trying to help solve this case.
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| concernedmother
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:23 pm |
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Jossy
I honestly admitted that I've seen this tape only recently, the last few days, it's very strange they are painting the rocks and the sand with white paint. One of the photos they seem to be painting the sand or marking it, leads me to believe they are marking spots to come back later for whatever reason
This story just keeps growing and growing and growing. 
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| wvgirl
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:24 pm |
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You are amazing Heli!
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| Bigfish
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:24 pm |
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Heli, you are truly amazing!
These "people" really are "bottom feeders" and we're really scraping the bottom when this is all the "news" that's available. 
Thanks.
Bigfish
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| Heli
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:25 pm |
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Caller from Blogs for Natalee.com
I wanted to thank him for everything he has done, I'm ( Janie Jamie ?? )...he told about Paul's house not being searched. There was speculation about a concrete slab poured. What can be done to get a search warrant for that.
Dana:
I don't know, that's evidence that would have to come forward and go to the Judge. I think it's totally bizarre when you do a search, you don't look in one place and that's a bizarre thing about this case.
Caller:
I'm a poster form scared monkeys, I just want to thank you for your coverage and having Jossy. I wanted to thank ( (EasyRider ?? ) for initiating this. There are 3 ppl that would be very interesting to know what he knows about them. Those ppl being Lorenzo, known to have parties in the area, does he know the vdS does he have any involvement The second is Freddy, he's been questioned, what 's his involvement with J2Ks and then Koen whose father had a boat. What does Jossy know in regard to that.
Dana:
These are popular questions, ppl are interested in getting answers. This satellite can be picked up in Aruba, and maybe they'll hear this and help.
Caller:
Jan from Pittsburgh. I happen to be a friend of the vdS, I have it on 100% authority from Anita that their house was completely searched except the younger brother's room, the yard was torn up and completely searched.
Dana:
The info is everything was searched?
Caller:
It wasn't necessary to search the younger boy's room but the remainder was completely searched.
I'm just trying to clear the air, I'm not trying to cause any trouble, I think it's important that there's accurrate information as well. I tried to put it out on the blogs a week ago and I got that directly from Anita van der Sloot herself.
Dana:
I want the truth, and wherever it comes from whatever it points to I think it's important.
But agian, if you search you don't forget a pocket, you don't forget..if I'm searching somebody I search all the pockets...
Caller from Alabama:
We get the info that vdS house was not searched and that was from Dompig, he is the one who has said over and over that it was not ever searched.
Dana:
One last call
Caller
I'm from scared monkeys my name is NM (?)
Philadelphia, thank you so much for having this program.
Some of the people on scared monkeys have researched and found there's a crematorium at a hospital and Paul has been a chair or person on the board, everybody thinks that perhaps the crematorium was used in this disappearance of Natalee.
Dana:
The family needs answers. It's a no brainer, whether you're the best friend of the vdS or the vdS, answers are needed. We'll continue on with this type of program when we can.
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:27 pm |
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I would think that was MedleyRelay who got in to give Anita's information about the entire van der Sloot property having been searched.
Way to go Medley!!!
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:32 pm |
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Jossy is doing God's work? What kind of comment is that?
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:37 pm |
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| BhamMom wrote: | | Jossy is doing God's work? What kind of comment is that? |
That's a comment from an obvious "fuck up"
Who gave that dude canadian citizenship 
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:46 pm |
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Jossy the old fart claims Aruba's tourism is down 15 to 20%.
The old boy's pacemaker must be on a weak battery; his brain seems to be oxygen deprived resulting in these delirious pronouncements. 
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| Bigfish
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:51 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | Jossy the old fart claims Aruba's tourism is down 15 to 20%.
The old boy's pacemaker must be on a weak battery; his brain seems to be oxygen deprived resulting in these delirious pronouncements. |
Once again, Mansur sounded like the old fool that he is. Everyone except the HMI zealots, say he is loco. 
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:58 pm |
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/monkeypee.html
This is what a "scared monkey" is reduced to after being on satellite radio with Dana Pretzer and Jossy Mansur.
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:27 pm |
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Do they hand out talking points to BFN and the monkey zoo? I swear they are bringing up Aruba having a crematorium again. That was debunked within the first week of this case. They are like a broken record.
Heli I am pretty sure Jossy said Joe Santos instead of DeSantos.
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| dayo gould
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:38 pm |
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Thank you, Heli.
You really don't know who is the worst, Mansur or the red-arsed monkey.
At least when they're spewing lies to each other on the air, they're not creating new lies.
If JoeT took Red to court for his sites 12 months of lies, libels and defamations, HMI would completely dry up in the States.
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| Heli
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:40 pm |
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| cajun wrote: | Do they hand out talking points to BFN and the monkey zoo? I swear they are bringing up Aruba having a crematorium again. That was debunked within the first week of this case. They are like a broken record.
Heli I am pretty sure Jossy said Joe Santos instead of DeSantos.
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Yes, I realized that later but my ears don't pick up Jossy's frequency too well
I'll go amend my transcript.
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| Fiery
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:43 pm |
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This wasn't a real radio program on the real radio am/fm was it....cause I just read on another thread that the program is emanating form a guy's basement in canada? Is that true? Wasn't the mom just in Canada...so was she there to give this DP guy an interview?
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| Heli
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:50 pm |
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It was on satellite radio. Dana Pretzer lives out in western canada somewhere. Beth Twitty was in Montreal over american memorial weekend.
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| medleyrelay
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:52 pm |
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Fiery -- supposedly this show is out of his basement - but he had Beth on last Sunday -- along with Red - actually about 7 weeks ago he had Julia on but of course he pretty much dissed what she had to say. That was when Roger called in. This guy is very low budget - guess that is why he is asking for money!! Well the love bowls are pretty full - cough some over for Dana!!
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:54 pm |
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Heli that is so funny - god I wish someone could post that on the Monkey site!
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| pathenry
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| medleyrelay wrote: | | Fiery -- supposedly this show is out of his basement - but he had Beth on last Sunday -- along with Red - actually about 7 weeks ago he had Julia on but of course he pretty much dissed what she had to say. That was when Roger called in. This guy is very low budget - guess that is why he is asking for money!! Well the love bowls are pretty full - cough some over for Dana!! |
It sounds so "Wayne's World"
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:19 am |
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Thanks Heli.
Party on Wayne. Party on Garth.
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| Fiery
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| pathenry wrote: | | medleyrelay wrote: | | Fiery -- supposedly this show is out of his basement - but he had Beth on last Sunday -- along with Red - actually about 7 weeks ago he had Julia on but of course he pretty much dissed what she had to say. That was when Roger called in. This guy is very low budget - guess that is why he is asking for money!! Well the love bowls are pretty full - cough some over for Dana!! |
It sounds so "Wayne's World"
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OMG pathenry..you are amazing...this is perfect...and probably so sadly true!!!!
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| Heli
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:59 am |
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| medleyrelay wrote: | | Heli that is so funny - god I wish someone could post that on the Monkey site! |
Do you mean this:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/monkeypee.html
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| DiamondDot
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:29 am |
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As long as there continues to be these one-sided types of programs, the public will believe it's the normal thought process regarding this case.
NEVER have I heard honest questions being asked, with it done in a continued line of thought. If there ever a hard question is asked of the family, it's a rogue question, quickly moving back to the whiney 'oh poor you' train of thought.
The general public will not take the time to research the reports. If they bother to listen anymore regarding this subject, why should they believe anything other than what they've been programmed to believe? The only thing they hear is the anti-ALE, anti J2K propaganda.
We can continue to post on these boards among ourselves accomplishing nothing. OR we can start bombarding the networks with e-mails demanding they take responsibility for molding and perpetuating the lies. Unless they redeem themselves by exposing Beth, they are as culpable as she is.
Short e-mails (2 or 3 lines) are most effective. If we can get one newscaster to give it a second look, others will fall into line.
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