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liesbeth
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:19 am |
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Did Paulus leave the casino together with Joran?
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| henk
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:42 am |
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| Quote: | LiesBeth quote
After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group of girls who were playing blackjack with Joran walk by, |
 WOWwww... Andre Montival AOKI Dos SANTOS saw Joran's doppelganger too??
I also searched between the lines were Andre Montival AOKI Dos SANTOS is saying Joran left together with his father, but could not find it...
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| Linda in L.A.
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:51 am |
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Sorry liesbeth...afraid I have to agree with henk. Unless I missed it also, I don't see anything in what you posted that would mean Joran and his dad left together???? Or did you just mean to post this as a starting point to discuss?
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| henk
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:08 am |
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| Linda in L.A. wrote: | | Sorry liesbeth...afraid I have to agree with henk. Unless I missed it also, I don't see anything in what you posted that would mean Joran and his dad left together???? Or did you just mean to post this as a starting point to discuss? |
Hi Linda.. Thanks for the "discussion" in the other topic.. I liked it.. 
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| Linda in L.A.
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:12 am |
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| henk wrote: |
Hi Linda.. Thanks for the "discussion" in the other topic.. I liked it.. |
Oh most welcome...and right back at ya. It was interesting to discuss laws, etc. in the Netherlands and it also sounds like you love your country as much as I love mine. You have a great nite henk.
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| henk
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:17 am |
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| Linda in L.A. wrote: |
Oh most welcome...and right back at ya. It was interesting to discuss laws, etc. in the Netherlands and it also sounds like you love your country as much as I love mine. You have a great nite henk. |
LOL..  Time differences.. It is morning in the Netherlands.. By the way.. I love your country too..
YOU have a great night, Linda..
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| liesbeth
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:30 am |
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| luvslalom
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:39 am |
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| liesbeth wrote: |
The time Joran phoned Deepak was around 22.00 uur.  |
If you read Paulus's statement of about the same time you will find that he says he left at half time to meet the younger son.
At 2150 Joran called Deepak while walking to McD's, then he called his dad. Then there's some time lost/gained. Joran was at home on the computer at 22:30 and his dad picked him up at 2300.
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| henk
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:43 am |
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| Quote: | LiesBeth quote
Last Sunday around 4 pm I went to the Excelsior Casino. My father had brought me there. I was at the casino to play "Texas Hold'em. |
There is a difference in coming together and leaving together you know.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Between 8 pm and 10 pm I went to play Black Jack. | The time Joran phoned Deepak was around 22.00 uur. |
I guess he just finished his pokergame..
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| liesbeth
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:01 am |
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| billybob
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:52 am |
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| Linda in L.A. wrote: | | Sorry liesbeth...afraid I have to agree with henk. Unless I missed it also, I don't see anything in what you posted that would mean Joran and his dad left together???? Or did you just mean to post this as a starting point to discuss? |
Lieseth probably meant this as a discussion topic as she is obsessed with Paul. Her mission, seems to implicate Paul and to some degree Anita in something shady or criminal, Rather tedious at this point, but it seems to make her day.
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| Heli
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:55 am |
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| billybob wrote: |
Lieseth probably meant this as a discussion topic as she is obsessed with Paul. Her mission, seems to implicate Paul and to some degree Anita in something shady or criminal, Rather tedious at this point, but it seems to make her day. |
Beth Lies is simply full of shit and committed to perpetuating baseless theories littered with even more baseless innuendo about Paul and Anita.
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| Slickster
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:10 am |
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| Heli wrote: |
Beth Lies is simply full of shit and committed to perpetuating baseless theories littered with even more baseless innuendo about Paul and Anita. |
Reminds me of Beth!
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| Gregor
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:27 am |
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Does anyone believe ALE doesn't know when Paulus left the casino?
After all, they have the original, unedited statements.
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| billybob
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:34 am |
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| Gregor wrote: | Does anyone believe ALE doesn't know when Paulus left the casino?
After all, they have the original, unedited statements. |
Of course they know! they also know he was not at the black jack table it is only the Dark Side that obsesses over Paul still!!
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| liesbeth
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:02 pm |
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| Gregor
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:37 am |
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The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared.
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This information doesn't come from the Superior Court, it comes from Jossy Mansur.
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| iquitos
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:41 am |
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you mean this drivel?
[quote="liesbeth"]
http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/about14444-0-asc-2300.html[/quote
UPDATE I: The following is Diario’s full translation for yesterdays article on Feb. 14, 2007 regarding Paulus Van der Sloot. Special thanks to Diario.
New information coming out of the Superior Court of Justice
PAUL VAN DER SLOOT HAD TWO PERSONAL CONTACTS WITH NATALEE THE NIGHT SHE DISAPPEARED
ORANJESTAD(AAN) On the 13th of February 2007, the Superior Court dictated sentence against Paul van der Sloot in the case that he appealed with regards to the damages that his person as well as his family members asked for, seeing that in the Primary Court (Court of First Instance) Paul van der Sloot alone (no one else in his family) got a reward of 40,000 guilders for damages and 1500 guilders to cover the costs of the lawyers, court clerks, etc.
The sentence of the Superior Court fell like a bomb on Paul van der Sloot and his defence attorney because, according to the attorney, the Court made use of informations that do not agree with the truth.
The Court dictated that Paul van der Sloot fetched Joran and Natalee at the McDonald Palm Beach branch and took the two of them to the Holiday Inn, according to declarations by witnesses and also informations obtained from a phone tap carried out by the police.
Until recently, this key information was not known in the press and apparently only by the Police and Dept. of Justice.
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared.
Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn.
Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions.
According to the Superior Court, Paul van der Sloot himself is guilty, he made possible or caused (depends how every one interprets the grammar in the sentence of the Court’s) himself to be arrested and that Aruba cannot be held responsible for the damages that he suffered and for which he was demanding damages, which he won in First Instance, but appealed to get more, and now has lost everything.
In the sentence there are various points and aspects that brought a different view on the Natalee Holloway case and that in the coming days will be analyzed, but the most important information is the matter of fetching Natalee and Joran at the McDonald, Palm Beach, and also that Paul had on two occasions personal contacts with Natalee on the night that she disappeared.
The cardinal question now is: what did the police authorities hear on the tapped phone of Paul van der Sloot, and the next question is hotter still: at what time, under what circumstances, and where did Paul van der Sloot as the father of Joran van der Sloot have contacts with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared?
If the Superior Court says that in the official report mention is made that Paul van der Sloot fetched Joran and Natalee on the aforementioned night at McDonald Palm Beach, that is the first contact, but where did the second contact take place?
On the night of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, Paul van der Sloot met again with Natalee after he left Joran with Natalee at the Holiday Inn? If that is the case, then where and at what time did Natalee disappear that night?
In the declarations of Joran and the Kalpoe brothers there was a heated discussion amongst them, with formal denials as to whether they went with Natalee to the house of Paul van der Sloot on the night of her disappearance.
That’s why it is important to get clarity on the two occasions that Paul van der Sloot had personal contacts with Natalee on the night in question and where and under what circumstances they occurred.
The lawyer for Paul van der Sloot denies that Paul declared that he fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald Palm Beach, and that he had contacts with Natalee the night she disappeared, but the Superior Court of Justice based its sentence on the information presented by the interim Attorney General of Aruba.
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Of course it is Jossy - not Amigoe. Click your heels together...
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| liesbeth
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:14 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
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| henk
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:18 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
| Quote: | | liesbeth wrote: |
without the Superior Court going against it?
In Holland it is not allowed.
Let me quess:
In Aruba the law is different. |
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Never heard of "persvrijheid" LiesBeth. .
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| liesbeth
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:34 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
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| dugo
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:37 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
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Of course there is freedom of speach but it is not allowed to spread pertinent lies.  |
Juh, that's why Jossy gets sued all the time..
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| liesbeth
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:51 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
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| dugo
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:53 am |
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Re: you mean this drivel?
DYOFR
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| Black-Tulip
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Re: you mean this drivel?
Ja, da's best wel link.
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