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AC
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:45 am |
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Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
Remeber this?
I was not sure where to put it....but this has been something that has been on my mind, especially with today's economy. I can't help but wonder if there is any connection.
Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/
Al-Jazeera releases full transcript of al Qaeda leader's tape
Monday, November 1, 2004 Posted: 8:07 PM EST (0107 GMT)
(CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy.
Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.
He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."
"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said.
He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."
"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.
Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue."
"We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official.
U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one.
As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.
"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.
The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.
"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.
"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."
As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.
"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.
U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years.
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| AC
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:05 am |
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The whole article is interesting to me, but the quotes below seem to be a prediction in a way:
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As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.
"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.
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Coincidence? Who knows!!!
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| dugo
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:05 pm |
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The Outstanding Public Debt as of 10 Oct 2008 at 06:01:46 PM GMT is:
$10.251.286.148.161,37
Congratulations on passing the 10 trln mark
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| AC
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Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:07 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | The Outstanding Public Debt as of 10 Oct 2008 at 06:01:46 PM GMT is:
$10.251.286.148.161,37
Congratulations on passing the 10 trln mark
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Yep....but I don't think anyone should be congratulated.
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| luvslalom
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:23 am |
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Re: Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
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| luvslalom
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Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:25 am |
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Re: Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
| AC wrote: | Remeber this?
I was not sure where to put it....but this has been something that has been on my mind, especially with today's economy. I can't help but wonder if there is any connection.
Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/
Al-Jazeera releases full transcript of al Qaeda leader's tape
Monday, November 1, 2004 Posted: 8:07 PM EST (0107 GMT)
(CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy.
Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.
"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.
He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."
"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said.
He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."
"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.
Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue."
"We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official.
U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one.
As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.
"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.
The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.
"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.
"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."
As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.
"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.
U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years. |
Reagan gave him some 3 million for his fight against the Soviet.
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| yankee-in-france
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:51 am |
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-- that was a big mistake, Luvs. He beat the Soviets with our money. He figured if he could beat them, he could beat us.
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| pax
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:37 am |
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Thanks for the article AC.
Do others agree the Iraq War plays into Bin Laden's hand?
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| AC
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:46 am |
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| pax wrote: | Thanks for the article AC.
Do others agree the Iraq War plays into Bin Laden's hand? |
I don't know, Pax......I just remember this threat. It just seems so strange that our economy is in collapse. Sure makes a person wonder if there are any ties, doesn't it.
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| yankee-in-france
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:51 am |
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| pax wrote: | Thanks for the article AC.
Do others agree the Iraq War plays into Bin Laden's hand? |
I do, Pax, and a half-hearted effort in Afghanistan likewise plays into his hand. Our efforts and thrust should have been to get Bin Ladin. I don't agree with the strategy that AlQaida is larger than Bin Ladin and we do not need to target Bin Ladin. It is true that is a huge organization with many, many followers, and Bin Ladin is only one man, but killing or capturing Bin Ladin would be a major victory for the US. IMO
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| yankee-in-france
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:53 am |
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AC, I think that the Bin Ladin bankruptcy strategy is based more on the use of our military and the huge cost of that use.
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| Alvin
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:59 am |
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I can see why this was posted and where its supposed to lead to.
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| pax
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:04 am |
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| AC wrote: |
I don't know, Pax......I just remember this threat. It just seems so strange that our economy is in collapse. Sure makes a person wonder if there are any ties, doesn't it. |
Yes.
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| luvslalom
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Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:45 pm |
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| Alvin wrote: | | I can see why this was posted and where its supposed to lead to. |
Good. Can you post your theory?
I saw it as a worry that very likely many Americans have on their minds.
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