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Heli
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:29 pm |
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Greta April 4 TRANSCRIPT
NOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE
Greta:
A new twist, Joran's attorney gained access to police reports. Joining us is Joe Tacopina. First of all, you got reports from the police that were sealed.
Joe:
We had a court victory in Aruba, the Judge mandated ALE to turn over documents, we got them and what we're finding is nothing less than remarkable, there are so many leads we hadn't heard about...some of them not even followed up. SOme of the most astounding things, I hope somebody down there with investigative skills has looked into them.
Greta:
Let's pick some of them apart. The hotel key, tell me about the key ...
Joe:
We have a police report form Dutch police to the investigative officers, they indicate they interviewed the hotel front desk clerk, that clerk has a computer system to determine when they handed out room keys, not literally keys, credit card devices, the room key for Natalee was turned over to Natalee on a certain date and certain time, and the key for room 7114 which was her room, her key was used on the morning of May 30, at 1:26 a.m. but more importantly at 3:22 and 3:36 a.m.....that particular key was issued to her
Greta:
When I check into a hotel they give us 2 keys...how do you know it was a key Natalee used, she had 3 roommates that might have used her key
Joe:
Our investigator spoke to someone who could distinguish...the key, each copy has a code # on the key..the # corrolated to being given to Natalee. I am not ready to subscribe that Natalee was there at 3:22 and 3:26 but it certainly needs to be investigated more...ppl in this case have been prone to take quantum leaps but I'm not prepared to do that
Greta:
I'm asking these questions to investigate..if there's any rock solid proof of the 3:22 and 3:36 times? Are there any surveillance cameras to know who actually used that key?
Joe:
They did not pick up anybody at that time frame. We spoke to somebody who viewed the tapes and saw nobody. The twist is this, one of our investigators has the tape of a witness who is known to Dompig and ALE and is an invididual they should have been looking into, that witness or suspect is on tape he knows Natalee was in her room after 3 a.m.
This was somebody who lives in Aruba, not a tourist.
He did not come forward and tell the police, I'm not going to tell you what our investigation came out to, it's our tape...this individual is known to ALE..
Greta:
When was this tape made
Joe:
In the last 2 weeks
Greta:
Was Natalee's key to her room found in her room, which might suggest that it had been mixed up with one of her roommate's?
Joe:
Can't answer that, the police report is pretty clear, what significance it has I don't know, I do know one thing, it should be looked into. Let's get some final answers on that.
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| wvgirl
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:36 pm |
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Thank you Heli.  Hugs
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| GeorgiaMom
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:37 pm |
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Yes..thank you Heli. I haven't felt this good over an interview in a long time.
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| katya
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:38 pm |
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Wow.
Thanks Heli..
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| arubagirl
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:41 pm |
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I'm going to have a serious, serious conversation with the cops that I know.
Waterproof case, my ass.
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| Spuds
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:43 pm |
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Thanks Heli...
Joe:
They did not pick up anybody at that time frame. We spoke to somebody who viewed the tapes and saw nobody. The twist is this, one of our investigators has the tape of a witness who is known to Dompig and ALE and is an invididual they should have been looking into, that witness or suspect is on tape he knows Natalee was in her room after 3 a.m.
This was somebody who lives in Aruba, not a tourist.
He did not come forward and tell the police, I'm not going to tell you what our investigation came out to, it's our tape...this individual is known to ALE..
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| victims cry
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:45 pm |
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Well I think Joran knows he was with Natalee, and knows it well. However i now feel vindicated in my belief that she was alive on the beach and what ever happened, happened after joran k2j left.
DAMN..... i want to know who this person is!
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| Spuds
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:46 pm |
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Why didn't this person come forth to the police?
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| paprikash
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:47 pm |
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Thanks Heli!
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| arubagirl
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:47 pm |
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| victims cry wrote: | Well I think Joran knows he was with Natalee, and knows it well. However i now feel vindicated in my belief that she was alive on the beach and what ever happened, happened after joran k2j left.
DAMN..... i want to know who this person is! |
Who would be in a position to know that's not a tourist and is well known to the police?
Drug dealer? That late? Hotel staff?
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| GeorgiaMom
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:48 pm |
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| Spuds wrote: | | Why didn't this person come forth to the police? |
Think!!!!
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| Hannie
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:49 pm |
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Wowzaaaaaaaaa!!
Thanks Heli!!!
And Joe, words are not enough, you are worthy the name "Best laywer" in my book!! O man o man, i have a shitty goddamn day, but this one makes me so happy!! Thank you so much! The truth always comes up!
And I know there`s more to come..... 
And thank you Joe for your email answers, you are really my hero!
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| spngbobthebldr
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:50 pm |
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| Spuds wrote: | | Why didn't this person come forth to the police? |
Someone had something to hide.
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| Spuds
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:50 pm |
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| GeorgiaMom wrote: | | Spuds wrote: | | Why didn't this person come forth to the police? |
Think!!!! |
They were afraid because they have a criminal record?
An illegal?
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| pax
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:51 pm |
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| arubagirl wrote: | | victims cry wrote: | Well I think Joran knows he was with Natalee, and knows it well. However i now feel vindicated in my belief that she was alive on the beach and what ever happened, happened after joran k2j left.
DAMN..... i want to know who this person is! |
Who would be in a position to know that's not a tourist and is well known to the police?
Drug dealer? That late? Hotel staff? |
I would guess hotel staff.
Not sure how credible this statement will prove, though.
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| sunmoonstars
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:58 pm |
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Heli, thank you very much!
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| GeorgiaMom
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:00 pm |
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| Spuds wrote: | | GeorgiaMom wrote: | | Spuds wrote: | | Why didn't this person come forth to the police? |
Think!!!! |
They were afraid because they have a criminal record?
An illegal? |
/bonk Spuds....I was thinking maybe this person did something with her. Then again you bring up good points too with a criminal record or illegal.
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| arubagirl
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:01 pm |
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I have a question / comment.
I have never stayed in the Holiday Inn in Aruba, but I have stayed at other hotels that uses the passkey system, while sharing a room with others.
The passkeys that were given to us didn't have any distinguishing marks on them, and at the end of the day, they'd all be scattered around the room. So while the key given to me on the day of check-in had a specific number, there would have been a very good chance that I wasn't walking around with that same card all the time.
So in my opinion, the records proove that Natalee's room was opened, but I think that there is some room for doubt if it was Natalee herself.
However, didn't the roommates think that NH was hanging out in somebody else's room because they were all asleep and NH didn't want to wake them up because she's just that nice?
So if it wasn't NH, then who was it? And why?
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| concernedmother
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:03 pm |
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I think Joe T needs to question Feb in person. She knows what happened to natalee, Id bet she knows alot more than she has said. I also bet she is one of the four that didnt talk to FBI and ALE this last go round.
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| Isanah
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:03 pm |
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Another way to determine key usage is Joe T. mentioning the key as similar to a credit card. Most tourist hotels will have a credit card linked to your key to charge for additional expenses such as room service, spa services, gift shop.
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| GeorgiaMom
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:04 pm |
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| arubagirl wrote: | I have a question / comment.
I have never stayed in the Holiday Inn in Aruba, but I have stayed at other hotels that uses the passkey system, while sharing a room with others.
The passkeys that were given to us didn't have any distinguishing marks on them, and at the end of the day, they'd all be scattered around the room. So while the key given to me on the day of check-in had a specific number, there would have been a very good chance that I wasn't walking around with that same card all the time.
So in my opinion, the records proove that Natalee's room was opened, but I think that there is some room for doubt if it was Natalee herself.
However, didn't the roommates think that NH was hanging out in somebody else's room because they were all asleep and NH didn't want to wake them up because she's just that nice?
So if it wasn't NH, then who was it? And why? |
I was thinking the same thing AG. When we've stayed at a motel with pass keys we just go in and lay it on the dresser or TV. When you need one you just pick one up. I'm more focused on this witness seeing Natalee in her room at 3 and if one of the room key issued to Natalee was turned in or not.
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| MF
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:05 pm |
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| arubagirl wrote: | I have a question / comment.
I have never stayed in the Holiday Inn in Aruba, but I have stayed at other hotels that uses the passkey system, while sharing a room with others.
The passkeys that were given to us didn't have any distinguishing marks on them, and at the end of the day, they'd all be scattered around the room. So while the key given to me on the day of check-in had a specific number, there would have been a very good chance that I wasn't walking around with that same card all the time.
So in my opinion, the records proove that Natalee's room was opened, but I think that there is some room for doubt if it was Natalee herself.
However, didn't the roommates think that NH was hanging out in somebody else's room because they were all asleep and NH didn't want to wake them up because she's just that nice?
So if it wasn't NH, then who was it? And why? |
For security reasons, all codes, room numbers, person that created the key etc are recorded on the magnetic stripe.
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| victims cry
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:07 pm |
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| arubagirl wrote: | I have a question / comment.
I have never stayed in the Holiday Inn in Aruba, but I have stayed at other hotels that uses the passkey system, while sharing a room with others.
The passkeys that were given to us didn't have any distinguishing marks on them, and at the end of the day, they'd all be scattered around the room. So while the key given to me on the day of check-in had a specific number, there would have been a very good chance that I wasn't walking around with that same card all the time.
So in my opinion, the records proove that Natalee's room was opened, but I think that there is some room for doubt if it was Natalee herself.
However, didn't the roommates think that NH was hanging out in somebody else's room because they were all asleep and NH didn't want to wake them up because she's just that nice?
So if it wasn't NH, then who was it? And why? |
Sadly I think you are right AG. After the first excitement i realized that the keycards may well have gotten scattered among the girls What I want to know is there one that wasnt used.
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| Hannah
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:07 pm |
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| arubagirl wrote: | I have a question / comment.
I have never stayed in the Holiday Inn in Aruba, but I have stayed at other hotels that uses the passkey system, while sharing a room with others.
The passkeys that were given to us didn't have any distinguishing marks on them, and at the end of the day, they'd all be scattered around the room. So while the key given to me on the day of check-in had a specific number, there would have been a very good chance that I wasn't walking around with that same card all the time.
So in my opinion, the records proove that Natalee's room was opened, but I think that there is some room for doubt if it was Natalee herself.
However, didn't the roommates think that NH was hanging out in somebody else's room because they were all asleep and NH didn't want to wake them up because she's just that nice?
So if it wasn't NH, then who was it? And why? |
Now this is only a guess, but when most of us check into a hotel we rent the ROOM and there is only one person responsible (legally) for the charges.
These students were on a package deal - per person, not per room.
They would each be responsible for any telephone charges, etc. individually.
So, they may very well have had individual key cards for those charges.
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| paprikash
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:09 pm |
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In addition, if the other three roommates had use of the key, it would have been found at checkout and would probably have been used in the morning as they we going up and down the halls knocking on doors, don't you think?
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