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jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:20 pm |
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When was Natalee's disappearance first broadcast in Aruba?
Is Nilton correct about Monday?
Re: HELP - POLICE?! how to contact?!
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Hello folks, sorry for my late reply regarding the Natalee Missing issue.
We've been very busy at the Newspaper this week, and HELPING the local authorities with information. You can not imagine how many phone calls the Diario newspaper receives, with people giving information. Somehow, the local community like to give information first to the newspaper, and then to police.
We have a constant contact with the Police. In my 19 years working for the press, I've never seen the Aruban Police Force so involved in this case. If they do not know something, they call us up to verify something. Even the FBI Officer came by our office.
A special Investigation Team has been put together to work 24 hrs. per day on finding Natalee. It seems that now, a Reward is being offered for her safe return.
What happened during these last days/hours?
>Police went to check on a Catamaran to check a girl fitting the description, but she was not Natalee.
>Police searched a home in the Malmok area, after receiving a tip. But it was a false alarm.
>Police also searched another home, but it turned out to be false too.
>Tourists themselves are helping out posting flyers. Some locals and cab-drivers are on the lookout everywhere for her.
>Police checking with Windjammer Barefoot Cruises, because their ship left the Oranjestad dock on Monday evening 10:00 pm. Could she have slipped unnoticed on board?
>A couple of tourist, rented a couple of Quadracers and searched around the 'desert area', and other parts of the island.
>Her mother went on some Radio Stations, and pleaded for the safe return of Natalee. (Natalee's nick-name is "Tootee").
>Her mother denied on air, that her relationship with her daughter is on rocky waters. This eliminates some rumors.
>It seems that authorities are somehow focusing more on the "northwest corner" of Aruba.
>The Police Helicopter is doing some air searches too.
I must say that the Press in Aruba did not "hide" this information!! It is not true! It was already broadcasted Monday afternoon and early Monday evening at the TV Stations. (Their newscast here begins at 7:30 pm).
>>>It was even printed on the front-page of the english language "The News" on Monday afternoon!!!<<<
Heck, we do not know why the editor of "Aruba Today" received notifications until Monday at 11:00 pm. Didn't she watch any TV or listen to radio that day, or read The News?
Some other information:
Kimba423 wrote:
I dont know if this group of seniors where staying at the HI BUT while we were there last week, staying at the HI, a group of 150+ kids came and let me tell you they were WILD WILD WILD I seen NO chaperones whatsoever....
Yes Diane, your are right. This group stayed at Holiday Inn SunSpree Resort. We've also heard that the Police received this notification too, about the "Wild Behavior".
I just saw 2 detectives working on this case. This is a week where they hardly get any sleep! But they are doing their best. They have only one task ahead: Find Natalee!
Sorry, got to go...
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| Siddalee
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:39 pm |
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This has been discussed numerous times, but I believe Aruba Today is published mostly for English speaking tourists and does not typically cover much local news, traffic accidents, crime, missing people, etc. The locals read Bon Dia, Diario and perhaps a couple other papiamento newspapers. I do know when Aruba Today got information about Natalee, they completely re-did their paper before going to press. For weeks their paper focused on Natalee's disappearance instead of their usual format. Give it a rest.
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:47 pm |
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| Siddalee wrote: | | This has been discussed numerous times, but I believe Aruba Today is published mostly for English speaking tourists and does not typically cover much local news, traffic accidents, crime, missing people, etc. The locals read Bon Dia, Diario and perhaps a couple other papiamento newspapers. I do know when Aruba Today got information about Natalee, they completely re-did their paper before going to press. For weeks their paper focused on Natalee's disappearance instead of their usual format. Give it a rest. |
I guess maybe Nilton is from a competitor of Aruba Today. I am not critical however. The questions was about Monday. Was it on the radio and television on Monday? I am asking because there are many statements from the suspects that are being released and this would bear upon some things that are coming out in those statements.
Is Nilton incorrect and it's Tuesday about which he speaks?
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| Fiery
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:53 pm |
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jenna, there was a discussion wtih scuba and some other posters on RWV about this very issue....i remember scuba saying one thing and posters arguing with her that she waa wrong..i don't know what to believe anymore...but she didn't say monday..i recall tuesday morning...
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| jenna
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| Fiery wrote: | | jenna, there was a discussion wtih scuba and some other posters on RWV about this very issue....i remember scuba saying one thing and posters arguing with her that she waa wrong..i don't know what to believe anymore...but she didn't say monday..i recall tuesday morning... |
I would probably be more inclined to believe Tuesday. But, this is probably the Nilton who is quoted the following week:
NILTON LACLE, EXECUTIVE EDITOR, “DIARIO” (via phone): Yes, and the “Diario” newspaper was the first to report on Wednesday that the police have some persons of interest just to interview them. They turned out to be three young men, one of them from Holland and two others from the country of Surinam in South America. The police did interview them, compiled some information and later released them. And this does not mean that they are cleared of any wrongdoing.
What matters is that the police have their information, and they are following up on this. They are gathering more details. If the evidence stacks up, surely they can be arrested any minute today or this weekend. The police, however, isn‘t giving any details and they have impounded the car, but they did search it for evidence. And...
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| Siddalee
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:12 pm |
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If Natalee's disappearance was not known until Monday it could not be in Monday morning's newspaper. If there is an afternoon paper in Aruba it could have been in Monday afternoon's paper. Aruba Today's Monday paper went to press after midnight Sunday night and Natalee was not yet missing.
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:23 pm |
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I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things.
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:29 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday?
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| Siddalee
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:34 pm |
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| jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday? |
I do not know when the other newspapers are printed, but Aruba Today at that time was running their presses around mid-night for the next morning's paper. (midnight Monday night for Tues. a.m. paper)
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| gagal_05
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:37 pm |
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In those tumultuous first days, Beth's most valuable allies were Julia Renfro, the 37-year-old American-born editor of an English-language daily, Aruba Today, and one of her reporters, Angela Munzenhofer, a tough-talking American whose family runs one of the island's popular restaurants. When Beth walked into the paper's office the day after she arrived, Renfro, a statuesque blonde, stopped the presses to run a front-page photograph of Natalee.
http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/060102roco01?page=6
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:42 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
If MF read about it for the first time on Tuesday, then POSSIBLY the paper was printed before the Alabama posse confronted Joran et al. Okay, where I am going with this? Joran, Deepak, and Satish could have known about the missing girl on Monday. They would be teenagers is deep doggie do do because they were with a girl who went missing. They could have already had a story prepared to tell Paulus about what happened. They would obviously think she would show up later but CYA with the parents until she does.
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| MF
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:43 pm |
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| jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday? |
I remember I was in Subway, when I saw the front page, but do not remember which of the free English newspaper it was.
ETA: I think it was one of those that come out in the Afternoon. There are several, including one that was printed by DIARIO. There was also The News and Aruba Today. Those printed by DIARIO and Bon Dia Aruba, are printed after they finish printing the local newspaper, I heard some are printed in the morning. But we should ask a local reporter.
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:45 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday? |
I remember I was in Subway, when I saw the front page, but do not remember which of the free English newspaper it was. |
WHAT are you talking about? Where is the Subway in Aruba?
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| MF
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:46 pm |
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| jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday? |
I remember I was in Subway, when I saw the front page, but do not remember which of the free English newspaper it was. |
WHAT are you talking about? Where is the Subway in Aruba? |
The sandwich place.....
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:51 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | jenna wrote: | | MF wrote: | | I read about it for the first time in the newspaper on Tuesday and at night on TV where Beth asked Natalee to come back and call her so that they could work out things. |
Would you mind clarifying about reading it on Tuesday? When would the newspaper have been printed to be available on Tuesday? |
I remember I was in Subway, when I saw the front page, but do not remember which of the free English newspaper it was. |
WHAT are you talking about? Where is the Subway in Aruba? |
The sandwich place..... |
If someone lived in New York City or London, we think that you were hanging on a strap of the underground train reading your newspaper. I am thinking what did I miss on my Aruba trip.
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| jenna
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:00 pm |
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So far in summary:
MF read it in the newspaper on Tuesday
Heard Beth go on television to ask Natalee to call her occurring on Tuesday at night.
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| acala
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:46 pm |
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I have always been interested in the timing, and the impression I got from Aruban posters over a year ago was that it was on the radio in the late afternoon and on TV that Monday evening. If it is true that news travels in Aruba like a brush fire in Southern California in August, then I would think it was known a girl was missing. Now, whether Joran, going from school to home to tennis to the casino knew about it is another story, but he very well could of. His activities sure don't indicate, to me at least, someone who was worried, panicked, quilty of anything, or someone trying to cover anything up.
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| all10suspects
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:09 pm |
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Natalee goes missing 1:30am Monday. Aruba finds out later that day sometime in the pm hours. 2 of the suspects Joran and Deepak are together Monday night from after Jorans tennis lesson until they show up
at Jorans house 3am when the MB gang comes looking for him. They tell the MB gang thier hotel story which they knew was a lie. For the rest of the week and until they get arrested on June 9 did Joran and company go out looking for her or do anything to help? Even Scott Peterson attened some of the searches for his wife to put on a show but Joran, Deepak and Satish bother to do that? Or how about when Anita
got back from Holland, Wednesday did the family even offer to help with
searches or meet with Natalee's family. I never seen anything that said the suspects or their families helped in anyway before June 9, 2005. Does anybody know if the suspects or their families helped Natalee's family at all? I hope someone could say I was wrong and that they did offer to help.
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| MF
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:43 pm |
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| all10suspects wrote: | Natalee goes missing 1:30am Monday. Aruba finds out later that day sometime in the pm hours. 2 of the suspects Joran and Deepak are together Monday night from after Jorans tennis lesson until they show up
at Jorans house 3am when the MB gang comes looking for him. They tell the MB gang thier hotel story which they knew was a lie. For the rest of the week and until they get arrested on June 9 did Joran and company go out looking for her or do anything to help? Even Scott Peterson attened some of the searches for his wife to put on a show but Joran, Deepak and Satish bother to do that? Or how about when Anita
got back from Holland, Wednesday did the family even offer to help with
searches or meet with Natalee's family. I never seen anything that said the suspects or their families helped in anyway before June 9, 2005. Does anybody know if the suspects or their families helped Natalee's family at all? I hope someone could say I was wrong and that they did offer to help. |
You mean like in giving free food and booze, hotels, parties, dinners and money?
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| all10suspects
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:47 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | all10suspects wrote: | Natalee goes missing 1:30am Monday. Aruba finds out later that day sometime in the pm hours. 2 of the suspects Joran and Deepak are together Monday night from after Jorans tennis lesson until they show up
at Jorans house 3am when the MB gang comes looking for him. They tell the MB gang thier hotel story which they knew was a lie. For the rest of the week and until they get arrested on June 9 did Joran and company go out looking for her or do anything to help? Even Scott Peterson attened some of the searches for his wife to put on a show but Joran, Deepak and Satish bother to do that? Or how about when Anita
got back from Holland, Wednesday did the family even offer to help with
searches or meet with Natalee's family. I never seen anything that said the suspects or their families helped in anyway before June 9, 2005. Does anybody know if the suspects or their families helped Natalee's family at all? I hope someone could say I was wrong and that they did offer to help. |
You mean like in giving free food and booze, hotels, parties, dinners and money? |
The people of Aruba helped a great deal and it is a shame they are getting screwed. I want to know if the suspects or their familes helped.
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| MF
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Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:50 pm |
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| all10suspects wrote: | | MF wrote: | | all10suspects wrote: | Natalee goes missing 1:30am Monday. Aruba finds out later that day sometime in the pm hours. 2 of the suspects Joran and Deepak are together Monday night from after Jorans tennis lesson until they show up
at Jorans house 3am when the MB gang comes looking for him. They tell the MB gang thier hotel story which they knew was a lie. For the rest of the week and until they get arrested on June 9 did Joran and company go out looking for her or do anything to help? Even Scott Peterson attened some of the searches for his wife to put on a show but Joran, Deepak and Satish bother to do that? Or how about when Anita
got back from Holland, Wednesday did the family even offer to help with
searches or meet with Natalee's family. I never seen anything that said the suspects or their families helped in anyway before June 9, 2005. Does anybody know if the suspects or their families helped Natalee's family at all? I hope someone could say I was wrong and that they did offer to help. |
You mean like in giving free food and booze, hotels, parties, dinners and money? |
The people of Aruba helped a great deal and it is a shame they are getting screwed. I want to know if the suspects or their familes helped. |
Don't know, did Beth keep a record of all the money and checks she received during those day, weeks and months? We will have to wait if these document will also be leaked by the monkeys.
But if I was the suspects or I do know just a bit about the justice system, I would have just stayed home and away from those people that in the first day, declared war to me and said that I will pay.....
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| chillin
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If I had been accused of harming someone i wouldn't go searching for them either..just imagine if Joran or a family member did happen to find her what people would have then accused them of...OF KNOWING WHERE SHE WAS!
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| justamom
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| chillin wrote: | | If I had been accused of harming someone i wouldn't go searching for them either..just imagine if Joran or a family member did happen to find her what people would have then accused them of...OF KNOWING WHERE SHE WAS! |
If they would have helped they would have been demonized, bc they didnt help theyre being demonized. So, if you have no choice and either way you come out the bad guy Id stay home too.
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| chillin
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| justamom wrote: | | chillin wrote: | | If I had been accused of harming someone i wouldn't go searching for them either..just imagine if Joran or a family member did happen to find her what people would have then accused them of...OF KNOWING WHERE SHE WAS! |
If they would have helped they would have been demonized, bc they didnt help theyre being demonized. So, if you have no choice and either way you come out the bad guy Id stay home too. |
My question is why wasn't Beth out looking??????? Dave looked..why didnt Natalees own mother look instead of handing out prayer cards.
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| justamom
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chillin she did look in the bakery and did ask alot of old people if theyd seen her 
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