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Dilbart
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:48 pm |
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I see a pattern here.
The documents shown now are copies of the original Dutch documents and translated into English. Because the 'source' documents are posted as well, we have the possibility to look at the translation to see if it is an accurate one, or Debbied, Skeeterized or Klaazed.
My best guess is that after there source is dried up, they come up with phony documents, of course only in English, so there is no comparison possible.
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| ATA
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:52 pm |
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Boy have they got monkey shit on their faces! 
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:57 pm |
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| SavannahStar wrote: | | gagal_05 wrote: | | JD wrote: | | mailou wrote: | | sandraK wrote: | | JD wrote: | | elgatonegro wrote: | | lushus wrote: | | So, in other words .. NOTHING, it means NOTHING! |
what it appears to mean is that joran was not where he and his father said he was during that particular time period. |
Seems Joran was heading to the lighthouse that evening rather than the casino. Where's Glenda? |
It boinged off the Tower... GEEZ!! |
and without knowing where the other tower starts to pick up calls, all it means is he was headed in that general direction at one point, not that he was going to the lighthouse. |
Heading toward the lighthouse is what I said, not that he was going to the lighthouse. I think more information on this is coming out. |
What makes you say that??? |
Maybe she's got sources.  |
Nah, it's just a guess. lol
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:15 pm |
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| JD wrote: |
Nah, it's just a guess. lol |
What is your "guess" or "thoughts" on Rammstein's interpretation?
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:17 pm |
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The Monkeys have a faulty translation
From Ramm at BFN:
At the bottom of his second page van der Straten writes:
LITERAL TRANSLATION
Looking at the results of the measurements, it is possible that the suspect Joran van der Sloot was indeed walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham and that this could still have resulted in reverse order picking up/registering of the cell-phone ID's.
NON-LITERAL TRANSLATION/EPLANATION OF THE DUTCH LEGAL LINGO USED BY VD STRATEN
Loosely translated from dutch it says that even though it looks like he was walking from the Wyndham towards the Marriot when first looking at the mobile-phone ID records, actual measurements have shown that Joran could have been walking (as he was saying) from the Marriot towards the Wyndham and still get the results that the ID records have shown.
In other words, Joran could have just as easily been telling the truth about walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham, the phone ID-records in this are not conclusive according to the measurements.
editions in blue for clarity purposes
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End of Ramm's post
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| joynow
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:17 pm |
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Re: Cell phone records on SM?
| sandraK wrote: | | victims cry wrote: | http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=191
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:20 pm |
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More from Ramm
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the person who translated this was making things up as he/she went along.
SM translation:
From the declarations of Joran van der Sloot he claims that he was however in the opposite direction, namely driving from the Racquet-club by means of the Marriott Hotel towards the Radisson/Wyndham.
Actual text:
Statements given by Joran van der Sloot however indicate that he was walking in the opposite direction, namely from the Raquet Club, passing by/through the Marriot over the beach towards the Radisson/Wyndham.
Walking in dutch it says liep which is the past tense of lopen
lopen: 1. run | 2. flow | 3. go | 4. march, walk | 5. pace, stalk, step, stride, tread | 6. go on foot | 7. go for a walk, stroll
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:23 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: |
Nah, it's just a guess. lol |
What is your "guess" or "thoughts" on Rammstein's interpretation? |
I dont speak or read Dutch so I cant comment or guess even.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:25 pm |
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From Caldeb:
FYI - if you read the thread in the SM forum regarding the Cell records it's clearly stated that is a ROUGH translation.
From Ramm:
rough is getting a few minor things wrong but when you translate walk with drive it is a bit more than "rough"
Even Babelfish translates it as "ran"
a good page to have in translating is:
http://www.wordgumbo.com/ie/ger/dut/erduteng.htm
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:28 pm |
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| JD wrote: | | pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: |
Nah, it's just a guess. lol |
What is your "guess" or "thoughts" on Rammstein's interpretation? |
I dont speak or read Dutch so I cant comment or guess even. |
That did not prevent you from commenting on the SM translation and calling for Glenda. What is the difference from you commenting on Ramm's translation? Do you see a difference between the two translations?
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| CancunMole
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:32 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: | | elgatonegro wrote: | | lushus wrote: | | So, in other words .. NOTHING, it means NOTHING! |
what it appears to mean is that joran was not where he and his father said he was during that particular time period. |
Seems Joran was heading to the lighthouse that evening rather than the casino. Where's Glenda? |
Do you know where it states Paul said where Joran was at 7:25 PM on May 30, 2005?
Do you know how may cell towers there are in Aruba and how close they can pin the exact location of a person via a person's cell phone call? |
In one of Joran's statements, he indicated that on Monday (6/30) night he left the Raquet Club around that time and walked through the Salina over to the Marriott beach and walked the beach on his way to the casino to meet Guido (can't remember but think at the Radison first?) but he also stopped alone at the Aruba Grand (?). Now, the Raquet Club is north eastish of the Marriott so that may explain why a call would be picked up by a cell tower at the north Lighthouse.
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:34 pm |
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This is really an injustice what the Holloway/Twitty's families have been allowed to get away with. Manufacturing documents and skeeterizing tapes. Regardless of any crime that may have transpired, and I don't believe that one has, I still don't condone this behaviour.
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:36 pm |
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| CancunMole wrote: |
In one of Joran's statements, he indicated that on Monday (6/30) night he left the Raquet Club around that time and walked through the Salina over to the Marriott beach and walked the beach on his way to the casino to meet Guido (can't remember but think at the Radison first?) but he also stopped alone at the Aruba Grand (?). Now, the Raquet Club is north eastish of the Marriott so that may explain why a call would be picked up by a cell tower at the north Lighthouse. |
Thank You, CancunMole.
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:47 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: | | pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: |
Nah, it's just a guess. lol |
What is your "guess" or "thoughts" on Rammstein's interpretation? |
I dont speak or read Dutch so I cant comment or guess even. |
That did not prevent you from commenting on the SM translation and calling for Glenda. What is the difference from you commenting on Ramm's translation? Do you see a difference between the two translations? |
When you asked the question I had not seen Ramm's translation and I still havent read it. I will do that and answer your question. You're welcome.
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:30 pm |
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| MF
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:00 pm |
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| sandraK wrote: | Rammstein
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Re: CELL PHONE RECORDS - JORAN 5/30TH - ROUGH TRANSLATION
« Reply #57 on: Today at 04:59:48 PM »
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At the bottom of his second page van der Straten writes:
Looking at the results of the measurements, it is possible that the suspect Joran van der Sloot was indeed walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham and that this could still have resulted in reverse order picking up/registering of the cell-phone ID's.
In dutch it says that even though it looks like he was walking from the Wyndham towards the Marriot when first looking at the mobile-phone ID records, actual measurements have shown that Joran could have been walking (as he was saying) from the Marriot towards the Wyndham and still get the results that the ID records have shown.
In other words, Joran could have just as easily been telling the truth about walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham, the phone ID-records in this are not conclusive according to the measurements. |
Thank you Glenda...
Fact is that the Hotel area is sitting between two cell sites, one near the Mariott and one near the low rise hotels. So both towers could capture his signal and after testing it could be that he was walking from one hotel to the other or otherwise like he said.
ETA; so this documents was used for what lie by the HMI?
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| sandraK
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| MF wrote: | | sandraK wrote: | Rammstein
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Re: CELL PHONE RECORDS - JORAN 5/30TH - ROUGH TRANSLATION
« Reply #57 on: Today at 04:59:48 PM »
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At the bottom of his second page van der Straten writes:
Looking at the results of the measurements, it is possible that the suspect Joran van der Sloot was indeed walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham and that this could still have resulted in reverse order picking up/registering of the cell-phone ID's.
In dutch it says that even though it looks like he was walking from the Wyndham towards the Marriot when first looking at the mobile-phone ID records, actual measurements have shown that Joran could have been walking (as he was saying) from the Marriot towards the Wyndham and still get the results that the ID records have shown.
In other words, Joran could have just as easily been telling the truth about walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham, the phone ID-records in this are not conclusive according to the measurements. |
Thank you Glenda...
Fact is that the Hotel area is sitting between two cell sites, one near the Mariott and one near the low rise hotels. So both towers could capture his signal and after testing it could be that he was walking from one hotel to the other or otherwise like he said.
ETA; so this documents was used for what lie by the HMI? |
MF.. thier Cup runith Over 
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