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justamom
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:34 pm |
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Looks like someone got a hold of the case file to me 
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:59 pm |
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First we were dead agented on MSM by Beth, Greta, Nancy, Geraldo and all the assorted slime balls that could weasel their way to Aruba and in front of a camera, now the whole scenario is being rehashed through the blogs.
If there was/is any evidence of a crime, does anyone really believe that we are going to find it in these documents?
Without evidence I will never be convinced that a crime has even been committed and Beth and her cohorts are despicable for their further attempts at vigilante justice. They have manipulated the media, the public and abused justice systems in three countries. They have used their daughter to line their pockets and further their own agendas. And to think our Secretary of State actually gave Beth the time of day. 
 
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| sandraK
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: JORAN - 6/14/2005 STATEMENT
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From BFN:
PROCES-VERBAAL (sixth statement of suspect) <snipped as I Fainted!
When Natalee and myself arrived at the first building of Fisherman's Huts Natalee told me that we should go and sit on the beach. We sat down on the beach next to each other and then we had went on each other. We had dry sex with each other. I was lying on the sand she she was sitting on me and pretended like we were having sex. I had told Natalee that I didn't have any condoms on me. Natalee than said to me that it was better if we had no sex with each other. After that Natalee put her hand down my pants and masturbated me. I had then opened my trousers so that my penis could come out to make it easier. While Natalee was masturbating me she told me to tell her before I came so that I wouldn't come on her because she didn't want that to happen. Before I came I told her so. When I came, I came into my own hands. I stood up and washed my hands in the sea. I then walked back to Natalee and we continued to French kiss. I started feeling up her breasts and continued to finger her with two (2) fingers. I estimate that I fingered Natalee for about fifteen (15) minutes. At some point I thought I had been fingering her for long enough. I had stopped doing it and told Natalee that it was better to go back to her hotel. I also told her that I had to go to school in the morning hours. I had told Natalee to walk with me back to her hotel. Natalee answered me that she didn't want to go back to her hotel.
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:10 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | First we were dead agented on MSM by Beth, Greta, Nancy, Geraldo and all the assorted slime balls that could weasel their way to Aruba and in front of a camera, now the whole scenario is being rehashed through the blogs.
If there was/is any evidence of a crime, does anyone really believe that we are going to find it in these documents?
Without evidence I will never be convinced that a crime has even been committed and Beth and her cohorts are despicable for their further attempts at vigilante justice. They have manipulated the media, the public and abused justice systems in three countries. They have used their daughter to line their pockets and further their own agendas. And to think our Secretary of State actually gave Beth the time of day.
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Hope so. With the things that have been coming out, I think there's some evidence and it will be found, it's just a matter of time. You're completely full of it saying they've used their daughter to line their pockets to further their own agenda.
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:12 pm |
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| justamom
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:12 pm |
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| sandraK wrote: | klaasend
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: JORAN - 6/14/2005 STATEMENT
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From BFN:
PROCES-VERBAAL (sixth statement of suspect) <snipped as I Fainted!
When Natalee and myself arrived at the first building of Fisherman's Huts Natalee told me that we should go and sit on the beach. We sat down on the beach next to each other and then we had went on each other. We had dry sex with each other. I was lying on the sand she she was sitting on me and pretended like we were having sex. I had told Natalee that I didn't have any condoms on me. Natalee than said to me that it was better if we had no sex with each other. After that Natalee put her hand down my pants and masturbated me. I had then opened my trousers so that my penis could come out to make it easier. While Natalee was masturbating me she told me to tell her before I came so that I wouldn't come on her because she didn't want that to happen. Before I came I told her so. When I came, I came into my own hands. I stood up and washed my hands in the sea. I then walked back to Natalee and we continued to French kiss. I started feeling up her breasts and continued to finger her with two (2) fingers. I estimate that I fingered Natalee for about fifteen (15) minutes. At some point I thought I had been fingering her for long enough. I had stopped doing it and told Natalee that it was better to go back to her hotel. I also told her that I had to go to school in the morning hours. I had told Natalee to walk with me back to her hotel. Natalee answered me that she didn't want to go back to her hotel. |
Yep these statements help find Natalee. Surrrrrrrrre. I guess SM numbers are REALLY down since they seem alright with portraying the "victim" in a negative light. These statements have yet to show any crime was committed, and do nothing to find the missing person involved. They should be ashamed of themselves. Arent they and BFN the ones always talking about not talking about Natalee in a negative way?
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:13 pm |
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That aint too funny pat. sicko
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:14 pm |
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| JD wrote: |
Hope so. With the things that have been coming out, I think there's some evidence and it will be found, it's just a matter of time. You're completely full of it saying they've used their daughter to line their pockets to further their own agenda. |
Full of what?
Have you figured out what crime you have deemed Joran guilty of yet? or are you just sticking with the ambiguous guilty.
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:17 pm |
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| JD wrote: | | That aint too funny pat. sicko |
What is sick is you trying to make it more than what it is and trying to read more into the statement than what it says.
In the picture I see a girl sitting on top of a guy with their clothes on. What is sick about that?
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| dugo
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:22 pm |
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The emphasis on fingers inside Natalee is typical.. It smells like the police trying to get Joran to admit to penetrating Natalee sexually on paper(sexually touching and sexually penetrating are different articles with different sentences in Dutch law) .. otoh he might not have a clue how to masturbate a woman..
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| Obscuregawdess
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:07 pm |
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| dugo wrote: | | MoonShadows wrote: | | Heck, I could have written these statements just from reading the boards for a year. |
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Actually, yes. I studied the Dutch language in school and, although much slang was never put into the lessons, I could write proper Dutch myself or have someone translate them for me? It wouldn't be that hard as long as you know the format, policies, and required fields of these statements to not only alter them but to CREATE them... Many people in America can do this. First, they can be determined original if the font/style/paper, etc. is the same as used in the department where it supposedly occurred and originated. If not, then it would raise a question as to WHERE THE HELL DID THEY COME FROM? Shit, we're asking that anyways... However, if it is the same, then we would have to explore who had access in order to make a fake or presume someone possibly has the same system, paper, etc. even in a home office... or that they are authentic. Bottom line? They could easily be fake without seeing an original statement from Joran or 2K.
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| Obscuregawdess
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:13 pm |
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| Dilbart wrote: | | dugo wrote: |
It looks true. They are from ALE or the ALE trash or based upon that. After Skeeters I would not be surprised if someone is playing a manipulative game here. |
I'am pretty sure that the documents are the real ones leaked by an ALE officer (maybe a teammember). These are the 6 documents Jossy found in his mailbox and he handed them over to the Twit. |
I do believe these are very well original and leaked, as many police just can't help themselves...or turn down the reward... I just am not convinced enough yet to run with it.
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| justamom
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:15 pm |
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| Obscuregawdess wrote: | | Dilbart wrote: | | dugo wrote: |
It looks true. They are from ALE or the ALE trash or based upon that. After Skeeters I would not be surprised if someone is playing a manipulative game here. |
I'am pretty sure that the documents are the real ones leaked by an ALE officer (maybe a teammember). These are the 6 documents Jossy found in his mailbox and he handed them over to the Twit. |
I do believe these are very well original and leaked, as many police just can't help themselves...or turn down the reward... I just am not convinced enough yet to run with it. |
I agree with Dilbart on this. I think like any trash rag Jossy probably pays for things. He may have a police officer or someone in the station who can get these and he pays them for it. How many witnesses has jossy paid for, oops I mean found? I think he is the one who got these and gave them to beth, whose probably given copies to dave too (maybe who knows) and one of them has given them to the trash blogs SM and BFN.
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| Heli
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:20 pm |
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Look at it this way, what does Jossy have to loose here?
He's got one foot on the other side already  , so if he
gets nailed for his shenanigans in this case, what's going
to happen to him ??  Maybe 72 virgins .... 
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:39 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | JD wrote: | | That aint too funny pat. sicko |
What is sick is you trying to make it more than what it is and trying to read more into the statement than what it says.
In the picture I see a girl sitting on top of a guy with their clothes on. What is sick about that? |
What's sick is you're fixated on the sexual aspects of this case and having a laugh over Joran's description of sexual play with someone who is now likely dead.
What's funny is you think you're fooling anyone.
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:47 pm |
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| JD wrote: |
[b]What's sick is you're fixated on the sexual aspects of this case and having a laugh over Joran's description of sexual play with someone who is now likely dead.
What's funny is you think you're fooling anyone[/b]. |
Do you have some sort of proof of this?
I think this is a pretty outrageous claim and I am categorically denying any such fixation.
I have followed this case for well over a year. I have paid much attention to the facts of the case and have provided links and sources. I also post caustic and at times controversial pictures and humorous (to some) comments attached to the pictures. I have a broad and liberal sense of humor. You have nothing to base such a claim on.
I ask that you apologize for making such a blatant lie.
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| gilligan
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:16 pm |
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Typical! Same old stupid shit.
pathenry....you've been soss'd! blech.
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| sensible
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:26 pm |
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| JD wrote: | | pathenry wrote: | First we were dead agented on MSM by Beth, Greta, Nancy, Geraldo and all the assorted slime balls that could weasel their way to Aruba and in front of a camera, now the whole scenario is being rehashed through the blogs.
If there was/is any evidence of a crime, does anyone really believe that we are going to find it in these documents?
Without evidence I will never be convinced that a crime has even been committed and Beth and her cohorts are despicable for their further attempts at vigilante justice. They have manipulated the media, the public and abused justice systems in three countries. They have used their daughter to line their pockets and further their own agendas. And to think our Secretary of State actually gave Beth the time of day.
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Hope so. With the things that have been coming out, I think there's some evidence and it will be found, it's just a matter of time. You're completely full of it saying they've used their daughter to line their pockets to further their own agenda. |
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| pathenry
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:36 pm |
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| gilligan wrote: | Typical! Same old stupid shit.
pathenry....you've been soss'd! blech. |
I do consider the source.
I think that someone has transcended their own proclivities regarding the case and their internet "links" unto moi.
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| heartache2
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:39 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | gilligan wrote: | Typical! Same old stupid shit.
pathenry....you've been soss'd! blech. |
I do consider the source.
I think that someone has transcended their own proclivities regarding the case and their internet "links" unto moi. |
yeah... but at least you've got a TREMENDOUS sense of humour...
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:41 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | gilligan wrote: | Typical! Same old stupid shit.
pathenry....you've been soss'd! blech. |
I do consider the source.
I think that someone has transcended their own proclivities regarding the case and their internet "links" unto moi. |
YOU do post caustic and at times controversial pictures that go along with the sense of humor.
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:52 pm |
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What are these statements and how do they fit with what we're seeing now?
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| heartache2
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:59 pm |
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| Obscuregawdess wrote: |
Actually, yes. I studied the Dutch language in school |
goodness! is there no end to your talents? Accomplishments? Friends List? oh... yeah... don't forget to put the word Bigot on your CV...  
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| MF
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:00 pm |
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| JD wrote: |
What are these statements and how do they fit with what we're seeing now? |
Shows that kids are angry at each other, because the ALE told them they have been turning and lying on each other and indeed do not know what happened.
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| JD
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:38 pm |
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| MF wrote: | | JD wrote: |
What are these statements and how do they fit with what we're seeing now? |
Shows that kids are angry at each other, because the ALE told them they have been turning and lying on each other and indeed do not know what happened. |
Is this from the police van tape then? I have no idea what it says.
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