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charlierat
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:18 pm |
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| JennyM wrote: | | Quote: | | Now, one more time in plain English. The Court had told both sides that all affidavits or other evidence that they wanted the Court to consider had to be submitted to the Court and served on the other party prior to the date of the oral argument. When JQK and Balban attempted to introduce an Affidavit at the oral argument that nobody had seen before, it was not admitted because it was not made available to the Court and the other side prior to the oral argument, as per the Court's scheduling Order. |
Charlie--MUCH better than my shorthand description above! |
Actually, I was going to say that your answer was much shorter and more concise than mine! lol
There you go, Fugee, two for the price of one!
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| JennyM
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:20 pm |
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| Absalom and Achitophel wrote: | | You're misreading the page. NJ refers to the reference Nicolson vs Pfizer case law where in that case witnesses were in NJ. |
Thanks! Was just scanning through it again and noticed that!
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| Heli
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| Daniel wrote: | Did anyone else notice the error on page 4? Insure should have been ensure. I hope this doesn't invalidate the verdict  |
 Daniel. I notice those types of errors but I
didn't dare mention it... you got ... bal... bal... errr bravado
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| chrysalis
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:23 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | | Fiery wrote: | from fu-gee-la's post:
| Quote: | | during the oral arguement in New Jersey and thus beyond the supoena power of New York." |
maybe one of the attorneys could explain this one...TIA
hmmm.....if fu's quote is correct...looks like there is something we don't know.... |
I noticed that too ...  Confused ... |
It's because the page break on the document jumps from a footnote to the continuation of a sentence in the body of the doc.
The sentence goes (as to a citation)..."certian key witnesses were located in New Jersey" and not a contination of the footnote that ends with "during oral argument."
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| victims cry
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:23 pm |
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Well considering that beth says her slush fund is broke and she cant afford to search for her daughter cause it didnt bring in much in the first place 
and the cost was 125k upfront to the filing firm, heli pointed out the extra expenses from serving to ex scotland yard detectives to be on the plane and all the other crap... plus JQK gets 4k a trip to aruba and expenses (pretty sure expenses are on top) from beth..
I dont see her refiling soon anywhere. She would REALLY look bad if she preferred to spend that money on refiling rather than the deep sea search for natalee that she says she is to broke for.
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| charlierat
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:23 pm |
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| Fiery wrote: | from fu-gee-la's post:
| Quote: | | during the oral arguement in New Jersey and thus beyond the supoena power of New York." |
maybe one of the attorneys could explain this one...TIA
hmmm.....if fu's quote is correct...looks like there is something we don't know.... |
That is not a correct reading of the Order. It's a mistake made when cutting and pasting from the original document.
The comments about the second LeJuez Affidavit were made in a footnote at the bottom of Page 6. The text on Page 6 leaves off with a discussion of another case in which key witnesses were located in New Jersey. The words "New Jersey" are the first words at the top of Page 7. They are not part of the footnote.
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| victims cry
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:26 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | | Did anyone else notice the error on page 4? Insure should have been ensure. I hope this doesn't invalidate the verdict |
Daniel. I notice those types of errors but I
didn't dare mention it... you got ... bal... bal... errr bravado
baby |
BALLS Heli  Balls. I think Daniel has those 
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| Fu-Gee-La
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:28 pm |
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Okay now that I am at the end of the thread I am confused. In the beginning I read Jenny's and charlie's explanations- thank you! I thought I had it for a second. Basically, that piece of shit affidavit that was denied was just an argument against Martina saying that she didn't know wth she was talking about when it came to her own "assault"- that rather LeJeuz did.
Okay, I see what I did, ty charlie. I transcribed the foot note. I was wondering where that period came from.
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| charlierat
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:28 pm |
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| justamom wrote: | | JennyM wrote: | | The Judge did not make the Twittys and Holloways pay the costs. I thought if it were dismissed she would have them pay the VdS's costs. |
Did Joe T ask for them? |
I'm not sure I believe he did. Small thing, in my opinion. "Costs taxed as paid" is pretty standard. Taxing one side's costs to the other is a sanction and Her Honor obviously was not sanctioning the plaintiffs here, just dismissing their lawsuit. No matter how frivilous the lawsuit was on its face, Joe T. did not argue frivolity nor did he ask for any sanctions during oral arguments.
I don't know about New York, but Alabama would allow Joe T. to file a Motion at this point to get his costs and fees taxed to the Plaintiffs if he wanted to. I really don't look for him to do that.
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| Heli
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:35 pm |
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| victims cry wrote: | | Heli wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | | Did anyone else notice the error on page 4? Insure should have been ensure. I hope this doesn't invalidate the verdict |
Daniel. I notice those types of errors but I
didn't dare mention it... you got ... bal... bal... errr bravado
baby |
BALLS Heli Balls. I think Daniel has those |
Speaking of balls, HannieC just vowed to kick
Bo Dietl in his balls if he should EVER set foot in Holland.
Now THAT I'd line up to see.
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| victims cry
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:41 pm |
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am i missing something or has fox totally ignored the ruling. I saw mention of Mel Gibson but none on this lol
maybe they need to figure out how to spin it?
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| JennyM
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:43 pm |
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FGL:
| Quote: | | Basically, that piece of shit affidavit that was denied was just an argument against Martina saying that she didn't know wth she was talking about when it came to her own "assault"- that rather LeJeuz did. |
The judge just agreed with JoeT saying that he had not seen the Affidavit that JQK's partner was trying to get admitted during the hearing.
The judge agreed that it had not been given to JoeT in time, by JQK, so what was in it was not taken into consideration by the Court.
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| Noor
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:46 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | | victims cry wrote: | | Heli wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | | Did anyone else notice the error on page 4? Insure should have been ensure. I hope this doesn't invalidate the verdict |
Daniel. I notice those types of errors but I
didn't dare mention it... you got ... bal... bal... errr bravado
baby |
BALLS Heli Balls. I think Daniel has those |
Speaking of balls, HannieC just vowed to kick
Bo Dietl in his balls if he should EVER set foot in Holland.
Now THAT I'd line up to see. |
Yep, and I'll be there right beside her, Hannie in her big wooden shoes, and I'll have the big collorfull umbrella..............look for us....
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| JennyM
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:49 pm |
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The Order had a lot of cut and paste from JoeT's motions, but not anything from the bodice-ripper filed by JQK.
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| victims cry
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm |
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Just had a chance to re read the ruling.
Did anyone catch her language on the first page?
"Plaintiffs contend that this court has an interest in ensuring that Aruba is made a little bit safer for the many thousands of NY residents who travel there each year"
Now unless JQK et al used that specific term, ummm seems a tad dismissive of their argument i translate it to "please take all this time and money to make aruba a teeny tiny bit safer for all these nyers" and that its going to do EFF all.
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| Heli
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:50 pm |
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"bodice-ripper"  now that's hilarious
I've never heard that expression before
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| WangChung
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:53 pm |
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It appears as if the judge handed Beth Twitty an empty beer can.....on a silver platter.
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| Heli
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:55 pm |
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| WangChung wrote: | | It appears as if the judge handed Beth Twitty an empty beer can.....on a silver platter. |
I don't think it was empty ....
I think somebody had pissed in it
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| woodville
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:00 pm |
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| JennyM wrote: | | The Order had a lot of cut and paste from JoeT's motions, but not anything from the bodice-ripper filed by JQK. |
Is there one sentence from the Twittys suit that any self-respecting judge could quote without breaking into laughter? Bodice-ripper it is.
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| Fiery
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:03 pm |
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| victims cry wrote: | am i missing something or has fox totally ignored the ruling. I saw mention of Mel Gibson but none on this lol
maybe they need to figure out how to spin it? |
now, now VC...aren't we expecting to hear some comments from the missing kid's mom's bestest, bestest buddy...on her program....that will be the barometer of whether or not the entire faux network is done with this or not. lol
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| justamom
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:11 pm |
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| charlierat wrote: | | justamom wrote: | | JennyM wrote: | | The Judge did not make the Twittys and Holloways pay the costs. I thought if it were dismissed she would have them pay the VdS's costs. |
Did Joe T ask for them? |
I'm not sure I believe he did. Small thing, in my opinion. "Costs taxed as paid" is pretty standard. Taxing one side's costs to the other is a sanction and Her Honor obviously was not sanctioning the plaintiffs here, just dismissing their lawsuit. No matter how frivilous the lawsuit was on its face, Joe T. did not argue frivolity nor did he ask for any sanctions during oral arguments.
I don't know about New York, but Alabama would allow Joe T. to file a Motion at this point to get his costs and fees taxed to the Plaintiffs if he wanted to. I really don't look for him to do that. |
I was just wondering because anytime we have gone to court, if my lawyer doesnt ask for legal fees, he doesnt get them. If he does ask, then it is basically up to the judge on if he gets them, or if I eat the cost up. Even when Ive gone and things have been dismissed against me, sometimes the judge still wont give lawyer fees. I think its dependant on the judge too. Some just dont seem to do it.
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| PerryPeabody
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:19 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | | victims cry wrote: | | Heli wrote: | | Daniel wrote: | | Did anyone else notice the error on page 4? Insure should have been ensure. I hope this doesn't invalidate the verdict |
Daniel. I notice those types of errors but I
didn't dare mention it... you got ... bal... bal... errr bravado
baby |
BALLS Heli Balls. I think Daniel has those |
Speaking of balls, HannieC just vowed to kick
Bo Dietl in his balls if he should EVER set foot in Holland.
Now THAT I'd line up to see. |
I'd bet on HannieC.
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| Fiery
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:22 pm |
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I'd bet on hannie too...but the reverse could happen....he might become so enamoured with you...you'll have aproblem on your hands...why you would probably be the first broad not to fawn all over him all the time.
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| Heli
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:23 pm |
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| Fiery wrote: | | I'd bet on hannie too...but the reverse could happen....he might become so enamoured with you...you'll have aproblem on your hands...why you would probably be the first broad not to fawn all over him all the time. |
Ewwwwwww I'd rather fawn over a dead bear
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| Fiery
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:24 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | | Fiery wrote: | | I'd bet on hannie too...but the reverse could happen....he might become so enamoured with you...you'll have aproblem on your hands...why you would probably be the first broad not to fawn all over him all the time. |
Ewwwwwww I'd rather fawn over a dead bear |
ROFLMAO....OMG heli...you are making me laugh so much tonight...
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