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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:35 pm

Paratroopers

It was mentioned to me that I just parachute into the middle of a thread..what with work and all I can't always be here when a new thread starts...so as to avoid any confusion and conflict I thought I would start one..kinda reminds me of a little story

This guy joined the paratroopers and was tellin his dad about his first time up in the plane to jump..when it came his turn he balked he was to scared to jump..the sargent yelled if you don't jump I'm gonna ram my schlong up your rear..his father ask did you jump? the son answered..just a little at first

back to the case...my gut feeling is NH is dead how she died I have no idea kinda like that movie The Perfect Storm where they show the crew battling the storm..no one has any idea what really happened on the Andrea Gail before it went down..all that was ever found were a few empty fuel drums

I would like to see all involved in the investigation on the same page such as how did junior got home that night..just trying to tie up a loose end with that one

I don't believe the students are lying and if they were I really believe it would have been leaked by some agency and if there were four students who refused to be questioned I believe the ALE FBI or Bachus would have made that known..but they haven't

I believe with a large group there are mispoken statements and confusion..has anyone ever played the game where someone ran into a room and back out again very quickly..everyone was asked to describe the person..it's hilarious the different descriptions given

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reddog

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:41 pm

Re: Paratroopers

Knot wrote:

i've played that.

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iwabwu

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:54 pm

I've done that. Sometimes it's so shocking to the people in the room, that they don't know why you were there. Sometimes I gotta jump right in. I knock first. JMHO

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DivaToo

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:00 pm

Sorry I moved your thread Knot... I moved the wrong one Embarassed

My apologies for parachuting in on your thread Embarassed

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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:03 pm

DivaToo wrote:

Sorry I moved your thread Knot... I moved the wrong one Embarassed

My apologies for parachuting in on your thread Embarassed

lol..knot a problem

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reddog

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:10 pm

DivaToo wrote:

Sorry I moved your thread Knot... I moved the wrong one Embarassed

My apologies for parachuting in on your thread Embarassed

damn you.

damn you to hell.

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refugee_lurker_27

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:15 pm

I wonder if there are any good books about parachute journalism, and I'd also like to know the FIRST time that phrase was used -- I presume it MAY have been World War II, but maybe it's newer than that.

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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:19 pm

refugee_lurker_27 wrote:

Are you into journalism?

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PufPuf93

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:17 pm

Re: Paratroopers

Knot wrote:

I believe with a large group there are mispoken statements and confusion..has anyone ever played the game where someone ran into a room and back out again very quickly..everyone was asked to describe the person..it's hilarious the different descriptions given

Knot

I am mostly a driveby poster myself. After 14 months I no longer have the energy or really that much new to say.

I can tell jokes too.

The night that Jug and Beth Twitty and their friends arrived in Aruba, Jug and a subset of the group went to Carlos & Charlies. Jug went in and the partying was loud and boisterous. Jug questioned the bartender about what boy left the bar with Natalee. The bartender didn't hear well in the din and found Jug's accent hard to understand. He thought Jug urgently needed the restroom. The bartender pointed towards the restroom and shouted, "Urinal".

Jug went out to his friends and said, "The kids name is Urine, y'all, he went thataway".

BTW I don't think whatever happened to Natalee is funny at all but humor is good for the soul.

Here are some student quotes from Brian Reynolds interviews.

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Bryan Reynolds: There was almost a fight between my friend and him (Joran). I had to break them up. That's when I got a good look at them. source
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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted in newspaper as saying) ... (I) saw (Joran and the Kalpoe brothers) hanging out at the Holiday Inn source

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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted in newspaper as saying) ...they (Joran and the Kalpoe brothers) were the first people (I) considered as potential suspects. source
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Bryan Reynolds: That was the first people (Joran and the Kalpoe brothers) who came to mind. source
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Bryan Reynolds: (quoted as saying) Van der Sloot got into a scuffle with some of the Mountain Brook guys at the bar. source
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Bryan Reynolds: I broke it up. It was outside the Carlos 'n Charlies, the second night we were there. source
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Madison Whatley (trip room mate): (wearing baby blue rubber bracelet that says "Hope for Natalee.") It's frustrating, but it helps to come to the prayer service. source
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http://www.scrux.com/natalee/studentquotes.htm

I have played the game where one whispers something in ones ear and then to another ear and another around the room. It is frequently humorous.

Now if one looks at the Brian Reynolds quotes and recalls the FBI student 302 reports one realizes that Natalee didn't meet Joran until the last night in the casino, a mere hours before they were to leave Carlos & Charlies together. The Kalpoe brothers were not with Joran, we have seen the video and the statements that the three met later to go to the bar.

Now what confuses me is that who the heck was Brian Reynolds talking about? No judgement here on my part. This is why many of us are confused.

Frankly, there is not a single personality on either side or in the middle of Natalee gone missing that doesn't confuse the heck out of me. I have the troubling thought the the confusion is deliberate. Part of this is that I do not consider Fox News a credible news source but admit this may be a personal problem. One thing I do know is that I would like Natalee alive and safe and happy.

Now I live far away and have the distance that I have never met nor spoken with an inhabitant of a Natalee Holloway Forum. Nor have I ever been to Aruba. The confusion, particularly the public inconsistencies of BHT and falsified evidence such as the Skeeter tapes and the initial statement posted on BFN confuse the heck out of me too.

I guess the point is I can almost accept the portion of your post that I quoted for the simple case of Brian Reynolds. But I can't for BHT and your theory doesn't explain falsified evidence.

Now I realize that you are from the BHam area and you really do have good manners. Funny too. No fool. I like to have good manners, every once in awhile I will get irritated and blurt someting better unsaid.

Knot, good fellow, I have assumed, perhaps wrongly, that you have some connection with the Twitty family. What is your take on the allegation that Madison Whatley's mom recommended that some of the MBHS grads not speak with the FBI?

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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:48 pm

Re: Paratroopers

PufPuf93 wrote:

Knot wrote:

I think we have some important things in common first and foremost a sense of humor

I do not know the Holloway Twitty folks

I don't know MW's mom said that for a fact..possible but I doubt it..besides it wouldn't make any difference if the FBI wanted to question them they could..they don't have to answer..but it looks bad if they wouldn't cooperate

I think we both agree..you can't trust the media and don't believe everything you read in the paper..I'm waiting to hear from an official source..may be a long time coming

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refugee_lurker_27

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:11 pm

Knot wrote:

refugee_lurker_27 wrote:

Are you into journalism?

Hi, Knot.

No, not really, but I like to read. I know that when the Iraq war started I heard lots of negative statements about "Parachute Journalists" covering it.

Ya know, journalists dropping in out of the sky with the soldiers, and knowing absolutely NOTHING about the country or the conflict they are about to cover.

The Christian Science Monitor reporter JILL - CantRememberHerSurname, she wanted to make sure she wasn't just a parachute journalist. She spent over a year working in Jordan before going to Iraq.

The term can be applied to ANY big ol' mass media event nowadays, and it does NOT require actual parachutes.

Parachute journalists drop in from nowhere and leave as soon as the story is over.

There was plenty of prachute journalism in Aruba during June, 2005, Laughing

I'm more interested in it from the perspective of social history, than of journalism --- isn't it amazing that less than half a century ago journalism was a highly respected field.

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PufPuf93

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm

Thank you Knot for your kind reply.

That is really interesting about parachute journalism. The term is new to me. Sounds like Geraldo does Aruba.

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reddog

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:26 pm

PufPuf93 wrote:

Thank you Knot for your kind reply.

That is really interesting about parachute journalism. The term is new to me. Sounds like Geraldo does Aruba.

i was going to reply, but since you've said i've never replied to you, i didn't want to upset things.

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Absalom and Achitophel

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:36 pm

It is all dependant on your brilliant summary of the "goodness' of the Mountain Brook "children"

How they are extoled virtues by their parentals in stopping the car on the highway to pick up litter.

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Fiery

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:44 pm

how are you knot? Geez, I could swear that you said you were friends with the family on RWV....now, before you jump all over me if this isn't true, someone was...so if it isn't you, who was friends with the family?

Who died and made YOU Darth Vader?

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PufPuf93

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:48 pm

reddog wrote:

PufPuf93 wrote:

Thank you Knot for your kind reply.

That is really interesting about parachute journalism. The term is new to me. Sounds like Geraldo does Aruba.

i was going to reply, but since you've said i've never replied to you, i didn't want to upset things.

When I think about it, I may have never replied to you before I said that Exclamation

Every day is new.

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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:58 pm

refugee_lurker_27 wrote:

Knot wrote:

refugee_lurker_27 wrote:

Are you into journalism?

I'm more interested in it from the perspective of social history, than of journalism --- isn't it amazing that less than half a century ago journalism was a highly respected field.

I don't put a whole lotta stock in journalist..I'm not sure where you are from and this may not mean anything to you..but some folks might remember him

Joe Namath was a quarter back at the university of alabama..during a press conference a so called journalist ask him..I understand you are taking basket weaving as one of your courses for credit is this correct?.....he replied "no that course was to hard so I enrolled in a journalism class instead"

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Knot

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:05 pm

Fiery wrote:

Hey Fiery I'm doing great and you?..and no I'm not gonna jump all over you unless you want me to Very Happy

I don't recall ever saying I was friends with the Holloway Twittys...I believe you may have me mixed up with someone else

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Gabrielle

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:52 pm

Hi Knot
I thought the little reprimand on the other thread was quite rude.
I also thought you responded with admirable grace.

The best part of the discussions here, for me, were that they were free-flowing discussions. To be restricted to imposed parameters of what I can and cannot say on a thread is not what I care to see happen here.

I, however, intend to chatter away as I see fit until I am accused of derailing long enough that I too become history.

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reddog

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:15 am

Gabrielle wrote:

i thought it was rude too. and i thought your response to it was admirable.

and since your av is a "paratrooper"...............

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Tonk

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:11 am

This is funny knot. You are a good sport and I like your posts here

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gagal_05

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:24 am

Knot, who is Junior????

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Knot

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:09 pm

gagal_05 wrote:

Knot, who is Junior????

Junior Johnson who the heck did you think we were talking about

Growing up on a farm in Wilkes County, Johnson, like many of the pioneers of stock car racing, developed his driving skills running moonshine as a young man. He was one of many drivers who easily transferred his moonshine experience to the highly pitched pavement of the NASCAR superspeedways.

In his first full season, he won five races and finished sixth in the 1955 NASCAR Grand National points standings. If NASCAR had a Rookie of the Year at the time, Johnson surely would have won it.

The following year, he took an unscheduled trip to prison in Chillicothe, Ohio after an encounter with federal agents at his father's moonshine still in the Carolina mountains. He served 11 months of a two-year sentence.

Johnson returned to the NASCAR scene in 1958 and picked up where he left of, winning six races. In 1959, he won five more NASCAR Grand National races and was regarded as one of the most capable short-track racers in the business.

His first big win at the Daytona 500 in 1960. It was in practicing for that race that he discovered the concept of "drafting," running close behind another car and taking advantage of its slipstream to gain additional speed. Using that technique he won the race, despite the fact that his car was slower than others in the field.

In 1963 he had a two-lap lead in the World 600 at Charlotte before a spectator threw a bottle onto the track and caused Junior to crash.

He retired in 1966. In his career he claimed 50 victories as a driver, and 11 of these wins were at major speedway races.

Johnson was a master of dirt-track racing. "The two best drivers I've ever competed against on dirt are Junior Johnson and Dick Hutcherson," said two-time NASCAR champion Ned Jarrett.

Johnson is credited with the invention of the bootleg turn

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Lexy

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:48 pm

Hey Knot...this is a pleasant thread, lots of good comments made and I enjoy people who have a sense of humor! Very Happy

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Bigfish

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:51 pm

gagal_05 wrote:

Knot, who is Junior????

LMAO! I was thinking "junior" that used to ice down the tubs of beer for the searchers. Laughing

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