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pax
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Frazerclan, lol.
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| Trixie
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:51 am |
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| rohn wrote: | | I'm curious about the Costa Rica disappearance. Where does that originate? Was it an MB comment? |
Rohn.... there are more than a handful of people in MB that know about Costa Rica.
The Twittys didn't tell Dave and Robin. They only knew that some of the Fab 7 went on a cruise with a stop in Costa Rico. Beth managed to keep the info of "Natalee ran off with a local for 4 or 5 days" from Dave.
The first week of Natalee's disappearance there were a few MBers that spoke up before Marcia got hold of them. But it was enough info for some people to be able to get confirmation on (from adults). It happened the summer after her Junior year. The Fab 7 practiced their "family investigation" before, only in Costa Rico it worked......
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| veronicavaughn
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:01 pm |
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| Trixie wrote: | | rohn wrote: | | I'm curious about the Costa Rica disappearance. Where does that originate? Was it an MB comment? |
Rohn.... there are more than a handful of people in MB that know about Costa Rica.
The Twittys didn't tell Dave and Robin. They only knew that some of the Fab 7 went on a cruise with a stop in Costa Rico. Beth managed to keep the info of "Natalee ran off with a local for 4 or 5 days" from Dave.
The first week of Natalee's disappearance there were a few MBers that spoke up before Marcia got hold of them. But it was enough info for some people to be able to get confirmation on (from adults). It happened the summer after her Junior year. The Fab 7 practiced their "family investigation" before, only in Costa Rico it worked...... |
Trixie, could you please answer the questions I posted earlier on the thread?
TIA
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| Also_Dutch
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:04 pm |
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| veronicavaughn wrote: |
Trixie, could you please answer the questions I posted earlier on the thread?
TIA |
Which ones??????
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| jakee
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:11 pm |
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| Trixie wrote: | | rohn wrote: | | I'm curious about the Costa Rica disappearance. Where does that originate? Was it an MB comment? |
Rohn.... there are more than a handful of people in MB that know about Costa Rica.
The Twittys didn't tell Dave and Robin. They only knew that some of the Fab 7 went on a cruise with a stop in Costa Rico. Beth managed to keep the info of "Natalee ran off with a local for 4 or 5 days" from Dave.
The first week of Natalee's disappearance there were a few MBers that spoke up before Marcia got hold of them. But it was enough info for some people to be able to get confirmation on (from adults). It happened the summer after her Junior year. The Fab 7 practiced their "family investigation" before, only in Costa Rico it worked...... |
I find this very interesting. I knew there were rumors of her having run away before, but she was actually gone for 4 or 5 days? Why is this not "relevent"
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| Mariah
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:15 pm |
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| jakee wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | rohn wrote: | | I'm curious about the Costa Rica disappearance. Where does that originate? Was it an MB comment? |
Rohn.... there are more than a handful of people in MB that know about Costa Rica.
The Twittys didn't tell Dave and Robin. They only knew that some of the Fab 7 went on a cruise with a stop in Costa Rico. Beth managed to keep the info of "Natalee ran off with a local for 4 or 5 days" from Dave.
The first week of Natalee's disappearance there were a few MBers that spoke up before Marcia got hold of them. But it was enough info for some people to be able to get confirmation on (from adults). It happened the summer after her Junior year. The Fab 7 practiced their "family investigation" before, only in Costa Rico it worked...... |
I find this very interesting. I knew there were rumors of her having run away before, but she was actually gone for 4 or 5 days? Why is this not "relevent" |
Because Beth can't use it to hang Joran or the brothers.
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| Trixie
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:27 pm |
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| jakee wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | rohn wrote: | | I'm curious about the Costa Rica disappearance. Where does that originate? Was it an MB comment? |
Rohn.... there are more than a handful of people in MB that know about Costa Rica.
The Twittys didn't tell Dave and Robin. They only knew that some of the Fab 7 went on a cruise with a stop in Costa Rico. Beth managed to keep the info of "Natalee ran off with a local for 4 or 5 days" from Dave.
The first week of Natalee's disappearance there were a few MBers that spoke up before Marcia got hold of them. But it was enough info for some people to be able to get confirmation on (from adults). It happened the summer after her Junior year. The Fab 7 practiced their "family investigation" before, only in Costa Rico it worked...... |
I find this very interesting. I knew there were rumors of her having run away before, but she was actually gone for 4 or 5 days? Why is this not "relevent" |
It was THE most relevant fact of the family investigation.... 
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| veronicavaughn
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:32 pm |
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| Trixie wrote: | | It was THE most relevant fact of the family investigation.... |
Trixie, can you please answer my above questions? TIA
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| Trixie
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:39 pm |
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| veronicavaughn wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | It was THE most relevant fact of the family investigation.... |
Trixie, can you please answer my above questions? TIA |
VV..
THE ANSWERS ARE IN MOUNTAIN BROOK.
If you want your questions answered go there to find out.
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| veronicavaughn
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:42 pm |
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| Trixie wrote: | | veronicavaughn wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | It was THE most relevant fact of the family investigation.... |
Trixie, can you please answer my above questions? TIA |
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THE ANSWERS ARE IN MOUNTAIN BROOK.
If you want your questions answered go there to find out. |
Well, you seem to have those answers. I am only asking how you know these things.
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| Trixie
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:44 pm |
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| veronicavaughn wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | veronicavaughn wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | It was THE most relevant fact of the family investigation.... |
Trixie, can you please answer my above questions? TIA |
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THE ANSWERS ARE IN MOUNTAIN BROOK.
If you want your questions answered go there to find out. |
Well, you seem to have those answers. I am only asking how you know these things. |
Because I did the work and took the time to find out which you too can do if you look in the right place, MB.
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| veronicavaughn
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:46 pm |
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| Trixie wrote: | | Because I did the work and took the time to find out which you too can do if you look in the right place, MB. |
So you have interviewed Coach Matt Cain? I do not know him, so that would not be possible.
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| PufPuf93
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:02 pm |
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| veronicavaughn wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | Because I did the work and took the time to find out which you too can do if you look in the right place, MB. |
So you have interviewed Coach Matt Cain? I do not know him, so that would not be possible. |
Why don't you use your good looks and love for hedonism to interview Coach Cain and report right back to your pals at RU Veronica  Shoot some shots and get him drunk first 
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:55 pm |
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I'll clarify something about the "soccer coach". I don't know if a MB dad named Cain is a soccer coach but the MB Angels are not a school team. They are a premier team and operate under the auspices of the MB Soccer Club. The coaches for these teams are usually volunteer dads and a part time paid skills coach. There are a number of soccer teams that aren't related to the school teams. Once a dad coaches for one of these teams all of the kids will call them "Coach Smith" or "Coach Brown" from then on.
Anyway, the point is, calling the guy Coach Cain wouldn't be unusual. It doesn't mean it's his real job or that he works for the school.
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| veronicavaughn
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:58 pm |
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| atypical wrote: | I'll clarify something about the "soccer coach". I don't know if a MB dad named Cain is a soccer coach but the MB Angels are not a school team. They are a premier team and operate under the auspices of the MB Soccer Club. The coaches for these teams are usually volunteer dads and a part time paid skills coach. There are a number of soccer teams that aren't related to the school teams. Once a dad coaches for one of these teams all of the kids will call them "Coach Smith" or "Coach Brown" from then on.
Anyway, the point is, calling the guy Coach Cain wouldn't be unusual. It doesn't mean it's his real job or that he works for the school. |
Well his name is Matt, and Liz's dad is named Steve anyway, so they aren't one and the same.
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| lushus
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:04 pm |
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| Also_Dutch wrote: | | veronicavaughn wrote: |
Trixie, could you please answer the questions I posted earlier on the thread?
TIA |
Which ones?????? |
 Quick .. Someone PULL HER PLUG!!!
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| .heft
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:05 pm |
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G. Ruffner Page, Jr. [how obnoxious is that name] is a soccer coach. Replete with club photos of his knobby knees.
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| pathenry
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:10 pm |
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Matt Cain Holiday daycare center provider:
Holiday Daycare/Recreation Grades K-6
During the Winter Holidays, child-care will be offered at Mountain
Brook Elementary. Dates are December 21-23 and December 27-29.
Holiday Recreation: 9:00 am-12:00 pm
Fee: $25
Holiday Daycare: 7:30 am-5:30 pm
Fee: $35 per/day
$25 per additional sibling
Teachers:
Matt Cain
Jennifer Roby
Cherry Thomas
http://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbce/MBCEFALL05.pdf
and on the Advisory Council:
Advisory Council
Cindy Williams, President
Nicky Barnes
Brooke Coleman
Charles DeBardeleben
Suzie Dickinson
Carol Drummond
Tricia Ford
Sam Gaston
Lynn Lloyd
Susan Logan
Charles Mason
Jackie Simons
Catherine Waters
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| iwabwu
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:48 pm |
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| Also_Dutch wrote: | | SMreject1977 wrote: | | J2K are responsible for natalees death and Paulus and Van Der Stratten are quilty of destroying any investigation any real cops in the ALE were trying to do. |
Oh come on, answer me this:
1) is there any (real) proof that Natalee is dead?
2) What evidence is destroyed?
3) Are you sure only ALE investigated this case officially? |
1. I have to agree with Joran's conclusion. I recall in an interview that he felt NH was no longer alive after all this time. What were they looking for at the Fishermen's Huts early in the case? Why did Aruba report that they found the remains and then retract the statement? Is there proof that she is alive? Has anyone seen her since that morning in May 2005? The investigation is not over, so I'll keep an open mind. JMHO
2. One would have to know the truth of what happened that night, and the following weeks to know what to look for and where. MO
Is there evidence that she was left at the beach? Any witnesses? The fishermen, what did they see? Have any of the people Joran reported on the beach that night come forward? Can evidence be considered 'destroyed' or 'hidden' from authorities because of a lie? If authorities don't know the truth of what happened that night, how can they be expected to find evidence? JMHO
3. I'm waiting for the book by investigators from the FBI & NFI. I think an independent report would be very helpful. Find out the truth of just who was involved, from the non Aruban perspective. JMHO
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| kat
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:53 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | Matt Cain Holiday daycare center provider:
Holiday Daycare/Recreation Grades K-6
During the Winter Holidays, child-care will be offered at Mountain
Brook Elementary. Dates are December 21-23 and December 27-29.
Holiday Recreation: 9:00 am-12:00 pm
Fee: $25
Holiday Daycare: 7:30 am-5:30 pm
Fee: $35 per/day
$25 per additional sibling
Teachers:
Matt Cain
Jennifer Roby
Cherry Thomas
http://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbce/MBCEFALL05.pdf
and on the Advisory Council:
Advisory Council
Cindy Williams, President
Nicky Barnes
Brooke Coleman
Charles DeBardeleben
Suzie Dickinson
Carol Drummond
Tricia Ford
Sam Gaston
Lynn Lloyd
Susan Logan
Charles Mason
Jackie Simons
Catherine Waters |
$35 per DAY???? Wow!
BTW, was Matt Cain one of the chaperones? Maybe he was warned of previous runaway attempts in order to keep an eye on Natalee.
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| pathenry
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:02 pm |
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O'BRIEN: An official over the weekend was quoted as saying this: "Something bad happened to Natalee Holloway." Was that a confession from one of those three men?
TRAPENBERG: It was not, Soledad. What we have there is probably a local official probably thinking that a confession was made, and giving his version, his spin on things. That happens on a local level a lot. But then when you have the international press, everybody can quote you. And once they found that out, they retracted what they had said, or at least they thought they had been misunderstood. And from the officials leading the investigation, they came out a few minutes later, saying there was no confession, and everything was just ongoing in the investigation.
But I guess that did cause a lot of problems for the family and then for the whole island, because it started with one media saying this, and then it went on. Everybody's trying to get the scoop, but nothing of such kind has been announced.
O'BRIEN: So no confession, no retraction of the confession, only a retraction of what the official had to say. Let's move on. Natalee's mother, as you well know now, looked at some videotape, and she says on that videotape you never see the three men dropping her daughter back off at her hotel. She says these three suspects know what happened to her little girl. Do you agree?
TRAPENBERG: I first have to go back to the first question, Soledad. This is not a senior official. We're not saying that. We're not acknowledging that. We're just saying they have to check their sources. It was not a reliable source. We have the official channels.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/13/ltm.01.html
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| Karamel
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:05 pm |
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| veronicavaughn wrote: | | atypical wrote: | I'll clarify something about the "soccer coach". I don't know if a MB dad named Cain is a soccer coach but the MB Angels are not a school team. They are a premier team and operate under the auspices of the MB Soccer Club. The coaches for these teams are usually volunteer dads and a part time paid skills coach. There are a number of soccer teams that aren't related to the school teams. Once a dad coaches for one of these teams all of the kids will call them "Coach Smith" or "Coach Brown" from then on.
Anyway, the point is, calling the guy Coach Cain wouldn't be unusual. It doesn't mean it's his real job or that he works for the school. |
Well his name is Matt, and Liz's dad is named Steve anyway, so they aren't one and the same. |
No, no. It was mentioned that "Coach Cain" knows about Natalee jetting off before.
I asked if it was Liz's dad, just because of the last name. I agree with atypical, it could be someone that coached outside the school system.
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| pathenry
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:08 pm |
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| kat wrote: | | pathenry wrote: | Matt Cain Holiday daycare center provider:
Holiday Daycare/Recreation Grades K-6
During the Winter Holidays, child-care will be offered at Mountain
Brook Elementary. Dates are December 21-23 and December 27-29.
Holiday Recreation: 9:00 am-12:00 pm
Fee: $25
Holiday Daycare: 7:30 am-5:30 pm
Fee: $35 per/day
$25 per additional sibling
Teachers:
Matt Cain
Jennifer Roby
Cherry Thomas
http://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/mbce/MBCEFALL05.pdf
and on the Advisory Council:
Advisory Council
Cindy Williams, President
Nicky Barnes
Brooke Coleman
Charles DeBardeleben
Suzie Dickinson
Carol Drummond
Tricia Ford
Sam Gaston
Lynn Lloyd
Susan Logan
Charles Mason
Jackie Simons
Catherine Waters |
$35 per DAY???? Wow!
BTW, was Matt Cain one of the chaperones? Maybe he was warned of previous runaway attempts in order to keep an eye on Natalee. |
Other than Paul Lily, I have no idea who the chaperones really are. If Plummer was one, he didn't speak up about it until much later. McGov doesn't look like he qualifies to have been regarded as a chaperone...he may have been there with "taytay" for all I know. 
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| WangChung
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:08 pm |
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| Karamel wrote: | | veronicavaughn wrote: | | atypical wrote: | I'll clarify something about the "soccer coach". I don't know if a MB dad named Cain is a soccer coach but the MB Angels are not a school team. They are a premier team and operate under the auspices of the MB Soccer Club. The coaches for these teams are usually volunteer dads and a part time paid skills coach. There are a number of soccer teams that aren't related to the school teams. Once a dad coaches for one of these teams all of the kids will call them "Coach Smith" or "Coach Brown" from then on.
Anyway, the point is, calling the guy Coach Cain wouldn't be unusual. It doesn't mean it's his real job or that he works for the school. |
Well his name is Matt, and Liz's dad is named Steve anyway, so they aren't one and the same. |
No, no. It was mentioned that "Coach Cain" knows about Natalee jetting off before.
I asked if it was Liz's dad, just because of the last name. I agree with atypical, it could be someone that coached outside the school system. |
But that still doesn't change the fact that Natalee and Beth have been through this Family Investigation charade before. 
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| Trixie
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:10 pm |
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| WangChung wrote: | | Karamel wrote: | | veronicavaughn wrote: | | atypical wrote: | I'll clarify something about the "soccer coach". I don't know if a MB dad named Cain is a soccer coach but the MB Angels are not a school team. They are a premier team and operate under the auspices of the MB Soccer Club. The coaches for these teams are usually volunteer dads and a part time paid skills coach. There are a number of soccer teams that aren't related to the school teams. Once a dad coaches for one of these teams all of the kids will call them "Coach Smith" or "Coach Brown" from then on.
Anyway, the point is, calling the guy Coach Cain wouldn't be unusual. It doesn't mean it's his real job or that he works for the school. |
Well his name is Matt, and Liz's dad is named Steve anyway, so they aren't one and the same. |
No, no. It was mentioned that "Coach Cain" knows about Natalee jetting off before.
I asked if it was Liz's dad, just because of the last name. I agree with atypical, it could be someone that coached outside the school system. |
But that still doesn't change the fact that Natalee and Beth have been through this Family Investigation charade before. |
Natalee, Beth AND the Fab 7 
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