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pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:18 pm |
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TWITTY: Well, I think what he was conveying to some of the persons that have interviewed him was that he`s actually an eyewitness as to what happened or what transpired that night. And I think that he was describing a tall male. And the young lady he was with, he thought at the time, could have been Natalee.
And I think he had some pretty detailed accounts as to what happened. And it even led to the recovery -- I believe John had mentioned earlier -- a recovery of a cable that was from the location where this witness described that he had seen this activity transpire between these two individuals.
And I think that was sent to the forensic institute in Holland. No, we have not heard back, though, any results as to, you know, what they found from this piece of cable.
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Anyone else notice that Beth mentioned this before JQK had spoken yet? Did she mix up interviewers? Was she talking about another night? I thought this was the first night that we heard cable as the "device" found.
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| kat
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:21 pm |
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DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about?
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| Isanah
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:21 pm |
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| ViVi wrote: | | Trixie wrote: | | That's it! Disinterested, almost as if she already knows the answer. hmmm |
That thought has been creeping into my mind lately. |
This is huge! 
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| Isanah
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:23 pm |
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| kat wrote: | DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about? |
For real, what friend is being referenced in this comment? 
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| wvgirl
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:23 pm |
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"a mother hell-bent on revenge" and possibly informed of Natalee's dabbling (?) in drugs and alcohol, wrongly heard that the boy she was last seen was a "judges" son-$$$ ca-ching $$$, plus she was an instant celebrity, rubbing elbows w/people that were at the beckon of the grieving mother.  Gotta go to bed. Nite.
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| pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:28 pm |
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| kat wrote: | DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about? |
It is a run-on sentence I think. I need to look for the original source, here is one link of a "video snippet" from NG in April. I think the friend is Kissel though...not sure.
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BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE`S MOTHER: We want justice, and we have to recognize the fact that, you know, this crime has been committed on the island of Aruba and we know the perpetrators.
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, CHIEF SUSPECT: I knew her for one night. I should have just stayed home and this wouldn`t have happened to me, it would have happened to another person.
DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE`S FATHER: (INAUDIBLE) that one of her friend`s alibis does not -- just not match up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) things lead me to believe that he knows more than -- than (INAUDIBLE)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/17/ng.01.htm
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:29 pm |
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| kat wrote: | DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about? |
Nasty Grace 06/27/06
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| kat
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:32 pm |
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| Bigfish wrote: | | kat wrote: | DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about? |
Nasty Grace 06/27/06 |
Yes, but since Dave was not on the show, I assumed it was a snip from a previous interview. I was wondering which one. 
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:37 pm |
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| kat wrote: | | Bigfish wrote: | | kat wrote: | DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY`S FATHER: There are some statements out there that one of her friend`s alibis does not match up. Both things lead me to believe that he knows more than what he`s telling us.
Pat, where did this come from? And which friend is Dave talking about? |
Nasty Grace 06/27/06 |
Yes, but since Dave was not on the show, I assumed it was a snip from a previous interview. I was wondering which one. |
Another reference:
Nasty Grace 04/17/06
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| pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:39 pm |
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HOLLOWAY: According to the prime minister, probably not.
GRACE: Probably not. Now, I can`t put my head on the pillow in good faith with "probably not."
Now, back to why you believe these three are responsible for her death and disappearance?
HOLLOWAY: The reason why?
GRACE: Yes.
HOLLOWAY: All of the statements indicate lie, after lie, after lie, and then they lie into the next day. There are some statements out there that one of their friends alibi just does not match up, and then...
GRACE: Totally fell through.
HOLLOWAY: And then I spoke with the assistant prosecutor while I was on the island, and I ask her opinion of what happened on this case. And she said that she could not get the police to follow up on certain leads that she had. And therefore...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/13/ng.01.html
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Looks like it may be a skeeterization.
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| kat
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:46 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | HOLLOWAY: According to the prime minister, probably not.
GRACE: Probably not. Now, I can`t put my head on the pillow in good faith with "probably not."
Now, back to why you believe these three are responsible for her death and disappearance?
HOLLOWAY: The reason why?
GRACE: Yes.
HOLLOWAY: All of the statements indicate lie, after lie, after lie, and then they lie into the next day. There are some statements out there that one of their friends alibi just does not match up, and then...
GRACE: Totally fell through.
HOLLOWAY: And then I spoke with the assistant prosecutor while I was on the island, and I ask her opinion of what happened on this case. And she said that she could not get the police to follow up on certain leads that she had. And therefore...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/13/ng.01.html
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Looks like it may be a skeeterization. |
Thanks. Thought I was reading some new information. 
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:48 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | HOLLOWAY: According to the prime minister, probably not.
GRACE: Probably not. Now, I can`t put my head on the pillow in good faith with "probably not."
Now, back to why you believe these three are responsible for her death and disappearance?
HOLLOWAY: The reason why?
GRACE: Yes.
HOLLOWAY: All of the statements indicate lie, after lie, after lie, and then they lie into the next day. There are some statements out there that one of their friends alibi just does not match up, and then...
GRACE: Totally fell through.
HOLLOWAY: And then I spoke with the assistant prosecutor while I was on the island, and I ask her opinion of what happened on this case. And she said that she could not get the police to follow up on certain leads that she had. And therefore...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/13/ng.01.html
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Nice find Pat! Simply fricking amazing but not unexpected from this lot that will do anything to re-invigorate their ratings. It's going to be a LONG summer for these MSM witches if they don't re-invent the Twitty case.
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| pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:57 pm |
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| Bigfish wrote: |
Nice find Pat! Simply fricking amazing but not unexpected from this lot that will do anything to re-invigorate their ratings. It's going to be a LONG summer for these MSM witches if they don't re-invent the Twitty case.
Bigfish |
I was surprised when I saw the actual source was the skeeterer too...not to mention why they skeetered that part.....hedging their "bets" and/or milking it for all it's worth. DisGrace is right. 
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:04 pm |
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| pathenry wrote: | | Bigfish wrote: |
Nice find Pat! Simply fricking amazing but not unexpected from this lot that will do anything to re-invigorate their ratings. It's going to be a LONG summer for these MSM witches if they don't re-invent the Twitty case.
Bigfish |
I was surprised when I saw the actual source was the skeeterer too...not to mention why they skeetered that part.....hedging their "bets" and/or milking it for all it's worth. DisGrace is right. |
Pat-
That is a great example as why I believe that if these transcripts are not certified, they're not admissible in court. How you would get a certified copy, I have no idea.
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| kat
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:07 pm |
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Just reading these transcripts of her shows makes me so mad. She acts so concerned and so outraged. She is so rude to her guests. Continually interrupts them and being sarcastic. If I ever had something happen in my family like one of these cases she covers, I would absolutely refuse to even talk to this woman on the phone.
I have noticed so many times how she never is fully informed on what she is spouting about and often gets the facts wrong. I cannot even watch her show anymore.
What a total bitch.
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| statinmyopinion2
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:10 pm |
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Well according to Mediabistro.com (TVNewswer), in todays articles on there, Nancy Grace's ratings are going in the dumpster. Her demo ratings (24-54 age bracket) are faltering. This is probably why she had the Natalee case back on her show, tonight.
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:12 pm |
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| statinmyopinion2 wrote: | | Well according to Mediabistro.com (TVNewswer), in todays articles on there, Nancy Grace's ratings are going in the dumpster. Her demo ratings (24-54 age bracket) are faltering. This is probably why she had the Natalee case back on her show, tonight. |
Q2 '06: Nancy Grace's Demo Declines
Nancy Grace's honeymoon is over. She has averaged about 168,000 demo viewers in her first year on Headline News (except for a notable boost last summer when she averaged 234,000). But in the second quarter of 2006, Grace averaged 142,000 demo viewers, down 15 percent from the previous quarter. She averaged 150,000 demo in April, 120,000 in May, and 136,000 in June.
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| pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:13 pm |
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| Bigfish wrote: | | pathenry wrote: | | Bigfish wrote: |
Nice find Pat! Simply fricking amazing but not unexpected from this lot that will do anything to re-invigorate their ratings. It's going to be a LONG summer for these MSM witches if they don't re-invent the Twitty case.
Bigfish |
I was surprised when I saw the actual source was the skeeterer too...not to mention why they skeetered that part.....hedging their "bets" and/or milking it for all it's worth. DisGrace is right. |
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That is a great example as why I believe that if these transcripts are not certified, they're not admissible in court. How you would get a certified copy, I have no idea.
BF |
I don't either. Look at the Skeeter/Kalpoe trickery, even after NFI determines it is manipulated it still gets turned into "he said, he heard". How can you prove that is not what the transcriber heard, no matter how obvious the error? It's a bunch of manure is what it is.....no credibility whatsover. How can NG transcription from the snippet be different from the show it was taken from? If I could find it...can't her staff.
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:15 pm |
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| kat
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:15 pm |
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I watched a little bit of her show the other night about Olivia Newton John's BF. I had to keep switching to the food network every few minutes to keep from getting too steamed up.
I used to like her on Court TV until she started getting so mean and hateful. She was just out-spoken before and I liked the way she held onto her convictions. Now, she is just a bitch.
My teen daughter cannot stand her!
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| pathenry
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:16 pm |
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| Bigfish wrote: | | statinmyopinion2 wrote: | | Well according to Mediabistro.com (TVNewswer), in todays articles on there, Nancy Grace's ratings are going in the dumpster. Her demo ratings (24-54 age bracket) are faltering. This is probably why she had the Natalee case back on her show, tonight. |
Q2 '06: Nancy Grace's Demo Declines
Nancy Grace's honeymoon is over. She has averaged about 168,000 demo viewers in her first year on Headline News (except for a notable boost last summer when she averaged 234,000). But in the second quarter of 2006, Grace averaged 142,000 demo viewers, down 15 percent from the previous quarter. She averaged 150,000 demo in April, 120,000 in May, and 136,000 in June.
BF |
I know someone looking for a new gig.
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| Bigfish
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:21 pm |
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| Quote: | | I don't either. Look at the Skeeter/Kalpoe trickery, even after NFI determines it is manipulated it still gets turned into "he said, he heard". How can you prove that is not what the transcriber heard, no matter how obvious the error? It's a bunch of manure is what it is.....no credibility whatsover. How can NG transcription from the snippet be different from the show it was taken from? If I could find it...can't her staff. |
Her staff is of questionable sanity as is the hostess and I believe that we may be seeing the beginning of the end for this type of "entertainment."
It's time for a change. 
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| BhamMom
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:41 pm |
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Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
Money, its a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.
Money, get back.
Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, its a hit.Dont give me that do goody good bullshit.
Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a lear jet.
Money, its a crime.
Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today.
But if you ask for a raise its no surprise that theyre
Giving none away.
Huhuh! I was in the right!
Yes, absolutely in the right!
I certainly was in the right!
You was definitely in the right. that geezer was cruising for a
Bruising!
Yeah!
Why does anyone do anything?
I dont know, I was really drunk at the time!
I was just telling him, he couldnt get into number 2. he was asking
Why he wasnt coming up on freely, after I was yelling and
Screaming and telling him why he wasnt coming up on freely.
It came as a heavy blow, but we sorted the matter out
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| DiamondDot
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Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:47 pm |
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Can someone please translate this?
| Quote: | TWITTY: Well, you know, I was thinking about that just a while ago while I was listening to your show. And, you know, for the first six to nine months, I didn`t believe anything. I always knew and was able to remain guarded.
But I`ll be honest. The longer it goes on, I think that I`m a lot more vulnerable now to just latching onto things that I hear when I know if, I can really stop and keep myself grounded, that, you know, it`s not true. And it`s probably leading nowhere with this new witness. But I just can`t help but let myself go the longer the time passes. |
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