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likestoflap-lol
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Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:06 pm |
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do you believe there is a reason for everything-karma?
interesting book i am reading says threre are no coincidences in life--what appears to be is a series of events random -is not.---.synergy matters. ever notice how some people come into your life and then move on yet they played a major part of the things that happened to you? sometimes the right people surround us and sometimes it seems we have no control over others behavior or events -yet i do think if it was meant to be is something that could be real..only way to explain it is karma --this is not a religion thread but some beliefs would say no karma others say maybe. there have been people i met that i felt was for a purpose --even a brief conversation could make a difference--a smile given to someone who you did not know felt hopeless--a gesture of kindness random-- some man surprised us in cars at a toll both -he paid for 10 cars the toll booth lady said --i was laughing as i thought --he made me smile as i thought what a nice surprise to us 10 cars ---anyways i believe it-no coincidences.allaent to be.
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| SavannahStar
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I believe that there are no coincidences, and I believe there is a purpose to everything. That is part of my own personal religious beliefs. I do not believe in karma. In other words, I agree with just about everything you said, ltf, but I don't chalk it up to karma....I chalk it up to God, and his plan.
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| BhamMom
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| SavannahStar wrote: | | I believe that there are no coincidences, and I believe there is a purpose to everything. That is part of my own personal religious beliefs. I do not believe in karma. In other words, I agree with just about everything you said, ltf, but I don't chalk it up to karma....I chalk it up to God, and his plan. |
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| kat
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Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:47 pm |
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My all-time favorite saying, "Everything happens for a reason". And I do believe this.
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| frazerclan
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:35 am |
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No.
Karma is an eastern concept whereby over a period of many lifetimes certain ‘things’ are worked out. The aim of this is to put a stop to the soul’s continual cycle of birth/rebirth. In other words, reincarnation is not desirable.
New Agers adopt a simplistic view of Karma whereby an individual receives back for what he/she has done in this life, in this life, an almost instant Karma. They also welcome the opportunity to be reborn after death. It could be seen as a death avoidance strategy.
The paranormal is not needed to make life fascinating and exciting. Nor is it required for humankind to care for each other and to devise ways by which we may all live in peace and harmony.
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| hisss
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| SavannahStar wrote: | | I believe that there are no coincidences, and I believe there is a purpose to everything. That is part of my own personal religious beliefs. I do not believe in karma. In other words, I agree with just about everything you said, ltf, but I don't chalk it up to karma....I chalk it up to God, and his plan. |
I'll be darned, SS, it seems we share a very similar view, and for the same reason. I also believe in acceptance of events in one's life. Knowing that a big event in your life, whether it's good or bad, is God's will, eventually leads to inner peace.
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| frazerclan
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:02 am |
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Allah Allah Akbar!
If your god is all powerful and merciful, have you ever been to a children's hospice or visited the results of his natural disasters?
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| Glenda
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I believe that Natalee, whether dead or alive, is one of God's chosen Angels. This young lady has changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people -- Some for the positive, some for the negative -- that was an individual choice, but change has occured and her work is still being done.
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| hisss
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| frazerclan wrote: | Allah Allah Akbar!
If your god is all powerful and merciful, have you ever been to a children's hospice or visited the results of his natural disasters? |
frazerclan, I'm not sure if you meant your comment for all of us, but I am an Oncologist. Rather than trying to place the blame for cancer, I think it's important to do the research and the treatment for it. There is plenty of time for 'philosophizing' when one gets too old to take any action.
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| CSI
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| Glenda wrote: | | I believe that Natalee, whether dead or alive, is one of God's chosen Angels. This young lady has changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people -- Some for the positive, some for the negative -- that was an individual choice, but change has occured and her work is still being done. |
Very interesting Glenda. I would have never thought of it in that context.
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| likestoflap-lol
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| Glenda wrote: | | I believe that Natalee, whether dead or alive, is one of God's chosen Angels. This young lady has changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people -- Some for the positive, some for the negative -- that was an individual choice, but change has occured and her work is still being done. |
in what way would she be a chosen angel? do you mean because parents are more aware of travel dangers? more talk of safe travel? dangers of going with people you do not know? i do believe that her missing has opened the door for awareness of missing. i also think that alcohol and drug awareness is more talked about.-not to say she did either. then we have issue of judging suspects as guilty who may be innocent . if natalee is found alive we will have many issues and if dead even more to wonder about how life changes in seconds or years. i believe in angels but do not think nat is a chosen angel.she has my prayers and if dead she may be with angels but not one herself. I RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTS GLENDA BUT UNLESS she ran away i do not think it was her individual choice to be missing or dead.if a runaway freeebird then yes, i guess it was. she may have started out as her choice and the end result was someone elses choice to harm her.
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| chance
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:19 am |
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I think the term Karma means in general to alot of people that the actions you put forth in the universe will come back on you somehow sometime in your life. Be it bad or good. Speaking of Karma have you all caught that TV Show called Earl. It is to funny. 
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| ajandTam
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:20 am |
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Hey Flapper!
Not sure what to think anymore. I sway more toward there is a reason for everything. It's just that the older I get, the more confused I get. Does that make sense???
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| cassidy
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:19 pm |
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| kat wrote: | | My all-time favorite saying, "Everything happens for a reason". And I do believe this. |
So do I.
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| jakee
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:42 pm |
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Do I believe in Karma? What goes around comes around? Gosh I hope so...I have been waiting for shit to go down for many years...
In all seriousness, I am not sure I believe in "Karma" or "everything happens for a reason" anymore. I would like to though. Some days I do...Some days I don't.
BTW My name is Earl is a pretty funny show.
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| DiamondDot
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:30 pm |
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| frazerclan wrote: | No.
Karma is an eastern concept whereby over a period of many lifetimes certain ‘things’ are worked out. The aim of this is to put a stop to the soul’s continual cycle of birth/rebirth. In other words, reincarnation is not desirable.
New Agers adopt a simplistic view of Karma whereby an individual receives back for what he/she has done in this life, in this life, an almost instant Karma. They also welcome the opportunity to be reborn after death. It could be seen as a death avoidance strategy.
The paranormal is not needed to make life fascinating and exciting. Nor is it required for humankind to care for each other and to devise ways by which we may all live in peace and harmony. |
Neither is chocolate, but DAMN.........
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| BhamMom
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:30 pm |
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| hisss wrote: | | frazerclan wrote: | Allah Allah Akbar!
If your god is all powerful and merciful, have you ever been to a children's hospice or visited the results of his natural disasters? |
frazerclan, I'm not sure if you meant your comment for all of us, but I am an Oncologist. Rather than trying to place the blame for cancer, I think it's important to do the research and the treatment for it. There is plenty of time for 'philosophizing' when one gets too old to take any action. |
Frazerclan,
This is not a place to discuss any type religion at all. Views can be stated about Karma, God or whatever but not to be taken to any great debate. Regardless of your statement, things do happen and we as God's people choose to accept them. Yes, I've seen the things that you have mentioned in your post and although they are horrible, God has also given us people like Hisss to overcome these problems. I don't second guess God or his plan. I just know that for every bad situation that I have been involved in, something good has come of it. Not what I necessarily wanted but God's goodness and mercy did shine.
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| frazerclan
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:45 pm |
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Bhammom
Haven't you just done what you accused me of doing?
You are correct, this is not a board for religious debate, so don't make it so.
There are so many threads out of category that perhaps a reorganisation is required.
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| BhamMom
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| frazerclan wrote: | Bhammom
Haven't you just done what you accused me of doing?
You are correct, this is not a board for religious debate, so don't make it so.
There are so many threads out of category that perhaps a reorganisation is required. |
No, I stated a view and did not question anyone else's beliefs. That is what you did. Either you believe in karma or you don't and you can tell your reasons why. That is what several have done. You are the one that debated that belief in God. Make a statement frazerclan, don't debate the issue. If you don't believe in God, that is fine and that is your choice and you can state so. But don't start in debate topics like his natural disasters, etc. That is where the line should be drawn.
I'm sorry you thought I was debating something, I was not. I was strictly stating my beliefs and not disputing that your beliefs were wrong in any way. There should be mutual respect for believing the way we do and I chose to respect your choice, not try to change it.
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| Glenda
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| likestoflap-lol wrote: | | Glenda wrote: | | I believe that Natalee, whether dead or alive, is one of God's chosen Angels. This young lady has changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people -- Some for the positive, some for the negative -- that was an individual choice, but change has occured and her work is still being done. |
in what way would she be a chosen angel? do you mean because parents are more aware of travel dangers? more talk of safe travel? dangers of going with people you do not know? i do believe that her missing has opened the door for awareness of missing. i also think that alcohol and drug awareness is more talked about.-not to say she did either. then we have issue of judging suspects as guilty who may be innocent . if natalee is found alive we will have many issues and if dead even more to wonder about how life changes in seconds or years. i believe in angels but do not think nat is a chosen angel.she has my prayers and if dead she may be with angels but not one herself. I RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTS GLENDA BUT UNLESS she ran away i do not think it was her individual choice to be missing or dead.if a runaway freeebird then yes, i guess it was. she may have started out as her choice and the end result was someone elses choice to harm her. |
I for one believe that she is alive, but either way, she has changed the lives of ohhh, so many.
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:13 pm |
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| Glenda wrote: | | likestoflap-lol wrote: | | Glenda wrote: | | I believe that Natalee, whether dead or alive, is one of God's chosen Angels. This young lady has changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people -- Some for the positive, some for the negative -- that was an individual choice, but change has occured and her work is still being done. |
in what way would she be a chosen angel? do you mean because parents are more aware of travel dangers? more talk of safe travel? dangers of going with people you do not know? i do believe that her missing has opened the door for awareness of missing. i also think that alcohol and drug awareness is more talked about.-not to say she did either. then we have issue of judging suspects as guilty who may be innocent . if natalee is found alive we will have many issues and if dead even more to wonder about how life changes in seconds or years. i believe in angels but do not think nat is a chosen angel.she has my prayers and if dead she may be with angels but not one herself. I RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTS GLENDA BUT UNLESS she ran away i do not think it was her individual choice to be missing or dead.if a runaway freeebird then yes, i guess it was. she may have started out as her choice and the end result was someone elses choice to harm her. |
I for one believe that she is alive, but either way, she has changed the lives of ohhh, so many. |
Glenda, with your comments you sure sound a lot like Mountain Brook Mom from RWV. She always said things like this. But, she always said that unless the mom realized that the only answer lay with God, that the kid would never come back.
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| frazerclan
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:22 pm |
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Bhammom
I certainly didn't want to get into a debate about god. I didn't bring him/her/it up, you did.
I can't see why we cannot discuss the missing Natalee Holloway, and yes if you look below that is what this board is supposed to be about, without the mention of god or invoking his name.
Let's all keep our belief or disbelief out of it.
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| BhamMom
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| frazerclan wrote: | Bhammom
I certainly didn't want to get into a debate about god. I didn't bring him/her/it up, you did.
I can't see why we cannot discuss the missing Natalee Holloway, and yes if you look below that is what this board is supposed to be about, without the mention of god or invoking his name.
Let's all keep our belief or disbelief out of it. |
And keep Natalee in, that is what it is about. I believe that debating God and politics is very dangerous.  However, frazerclan, Natalee had a strong belief in God and if the two are discussed together because of her beliefs, what's the problem?
If you want to worship satan, that is your right and you can tell me. Just don't try to get me to believe the way you do. Like I said, opinions can be stated and that is exactly what they are....opinions. I won't debate your opinion of Natalee or anything else, I will strictly tell you mine as I did in the other post. Like I said, it is an opinion, not open to debate so next time, don't try to debate it?
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| frazerclan
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Sorry Bhammom, the devil made me do it!
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I also believe that everything happens for a reason, only it`s a pity that we not always know what those reasons are......
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