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pathenry
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:08 am |
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Then there is this web post:
June 06, 2005
Natalee Holloway Prayer Update
Posted by Bryan
This, from the email:
Friends,
Just wanted to thank you for your continued prayers and encouragement regarding my niece, Natalee Holloway. It sometimes appears to be discouraging regarding Natalee Holloway, missing in Aruba, but then I am reminded about what God spoke to Abraham in Genesis 18:14, "Is anything too hard for the Lord?" I am not sure how this will turn out, but I trust fully in God's will and will cling to His faithfulness. Natalee Holloway is the daughter of my brother-in-law, Dave Holloway. My sister Robin and Dave are in great need of your continued prayers as is all of the Holloway and Parten families. There is still no evidence of where Natalee could be. Pray too, that as this is spreading across the media, Christians would be burdened to pray. Natalee is a fighter and a strong young lady. God willing, she will persevere! Prayers and words of encouragement could be sent to my sister Robin at: rholloway@comcast.net.
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!
Steve Parten
Thanks for everyone's continued prayer.
June 6, 2005 01:28 PM
http://tinyurl.com/kuny4
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| Fiery
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:01 am |
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Pat, wasn't there also a post by this guy or something with wrong dates? Am I the only one who remembers this?
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| jenna
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:27 am |
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| Fiery wrote: | | why is it that there is no simple answer to a simple question? She either went to the concert or she didn't. I remember an argument between scubajap and dan riehl. It turned out scubajap was right. But, for the life of me, I can't remember what she said. But one of them said she went and the other said she didn't. I think scubjap said she didn't and did the research and said she didn't. Does anyone remember this? |
I don't think Scuba will be angry at me for posting this. We both desperately want the truth to be told and Natalee to be found. The kids that we are talking about may or may not have gone to the Soul Beach Festival. Clearly, Ruth McVay originally said that they did. If we look closely at the statements from the MB kids, there are inconsistencies. I looked through hundreds of SB photos back in September and found the two that are circulating now. I am sure that there are many, many more photos of SB. I e-mailed them to Scuba and we researched for a while without getting any answers. In October, I e-mailed them to Dan Riehl. Dan wrote me back saying that he didn't think this was new information because he had always been told that they did go to the Soul Beach concert. The e-mail was a bit curt. I still have the e-mail. When the casino tapes came out, we all had to question whether the kids went to the concert or not. If Natalee left for SB right after she was talking on that cellphone looking pre-occupied and like she was trying to hook up with other people, she still could have attended from 9:00-9:30 to 11:00. The SB festival was supposed to be from 7-10 but it originally got started late and there was a gap of time between B2M and Lauryn Hill. I don't think any of us want to have the who was right-who was wrong argument. I know of at least two persons other than myself who still thinks it is possible that Natalee did go to SB. If that is Brian Riser in both pictures, then he could tell us. These pictures , however, could just contain some amazing look-alikes--and so many of them.
Why would SB be important in the timeline? 1) It establishes that she had no interest in Joran prior to CnC. We already heard Lee say that she met Joran only on the 29th in the casino. From the casino tapes, we can see that it would be entirely possible that Joran was not aware of Natalee other than she was in the group until Carlos n Charlie's. We are finding out that other girls invited Joran to Carlos n Charlie's. Lee says that she thought that Joran was perfectly nice and they essentially were being friendly that's really all. 2) If that is GVC with the mole on his neck and Natalee, it is a photo record of the fact that Natalee did encounter GVC. We know that she did because he was arrested. They are not just randomly picking up Dutch boys. (Just being with GVC doesn't mean he harmed her either.)
Why would MB want to change the timeline from what was originally reported? I will just ask the question and, FEB style, leave it at that.
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| jenna
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:12 am |
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Okay, here is the e-mail from Dan. This is in no way a criticism of Dan Riehl. It is an example of what we believed at that time. Don't you agree that by October we should have had an answer about the Soul Beach Festival?
From: "Its Just Dan" <itsjustdan> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: "xxxxx" <xxxxx>
Subject: Re: Natalee Holloway case
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:57:15 -0400
Jxxxxx,
I'm afraid I don't understand the nature of your point. It has always been my impression that they all went to the fesitval.
Dan
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| jenna
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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And you know, this is also perplexing. We`re very pleased to have with us tonight Dave Holloway, Natalee`s father. Perhaps you can give us some context because Joran Van Der Sloot is reported as saying he doesn`t know this guy. This guy, Geoffrey, is reportedly saying that he doesn`t know Joran. And by the same token, Natalee`s mom, Beth, has said that she had never heard of this guy, that the friends that were with Natalee have never heard of Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt. And so you yourself had said that you didn`t hear his name until he was arrested.
What do you make of this development, sir?
HOLLOWAY: Well, you can throw the shirt away. That kid we have pretty good evidence that`s coming out now that he was at Carlos and Charlie`s that same night Natalee disappeared. So you know, he wouldn`t be wearing a security shirt out like that. You put...
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait. I think you said something very...
(CROSSTALK)
HOLLOWAY: ... with the fact that he was arrested for drug charges and he`s connected to the case, and you start putting two and two together and you start coming up with some pretty good theories.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to make sure I heard you correctly because what you said was very significant, if I heard you right. You`re saying that you believe Geoffrey was at Carlos and Charlie`s that night?
HOLLOWAY: Yes. There are some witnesses...
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Since Beth has tunnel vision regarding Joran, it would appear that she is making an argument that GVC was the source of the dape rape drug that Joran supposedly gave Natalee.
Hypothetically: This is very interesting in light of the Soul Beach photos because we see that Natalee is with GVC at SB. Then we see that Beth believes that GVC was at CnC. So Natalee walked to CnC from Soul Beach with GVC?? Or GVC left and came back to CnC later? So when Natalee left with Joran was GVC following in his white car. A white car was seen at GVC's house.?
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| hawaiianpunch123456
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:58 am |
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| jenna wrote: | VELEZ-MITCHELL: And you know, this is also perplexing. We`re very pleased to have with us tonight Dave Holloway, Natalee`s father. Perhaps you can give us some context because Joran Van Der Sloot is reported as saying he doesn`t know this guy. This guy, Geoffrey, is reportedly saying that he doesn`t know Joran. And by the same token, Natalee`s mom, Beth, has said that she had never heard of this guy, that the friends that were with Natalee have never heard of Geoffrey Van Cromvoirt. And so you yourself had said that you didn`t hear his name until he was arrested.
What do you make of this development, sir?
HOLLOWAY: Well, you can throw the shirt away. That kid we have pretty good evidence that`s coming out now that he was at Carlos and Charlie`s that same night Natalee disappeared. So you know, he wouldn`t be wearing a security shirt out like that. You put...
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wait. I think you said something very...
(CROSSTALK)
HOLLOWAY: ... with the fact that he was arrested for drug charges and he`s connected to the case, and you start putting two and two together and you start coming up with some pretty good theories.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to make sure I heard you correctly because what you said was very significant, if I heard you right. You`re saying that you believe Geoffrey was at Carlos and Charlie`s that night?
HOLLOWAY: Yes. There are some witnesses...
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Since Beth has tunnel vision regarding Joran, it would appear that she is making an argument that GVC was the source of the dape rape drug that Joran supposedly gave Natalee.
Hypothetically: This is very interesting in light of the Soul Beach photos because we see that Natalee is with GVC at SB. Then we see that Beth believes that GVC was at CnC. So Natalee walked to CnC from Soul Beach with GVC?? Or GVC left and came back to CnC later. So when Natalee left with Joran was GVC following in his white car. A white car was seen at GVC's house. |
We don't KNOW that that is Natalee and Gee. If it is...I bet she went seperately from Gee. Maybe she wanted to go and he wouldn't leave with her and she was miffed so when she got there and saw Joran she flirted with him instead.
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| jenna
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:39 am |
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Again hypothetically (noted especially for HP):
http://antillen.nu/content/view/555/2/
BREDA/WILLEMSTAD (19-04-06) - Geoffrey van Cromvoirt is the son of a former policeman. His father, Willem, was eighteen years policeman in the Dutch town Breda when he decided (end 1997) to start his own business, according to the Dutch newspaper BN/De Stem.
On 1 January 1998 he started Video Camera Beveiliging (beveiliging means security), a firm which aimed at the security of companies with video systems. In 1999, his father decided to move to the Dutch Antilles. According to an ex-colleague, he started at first on Bonaire by the name VCB Security. Meanwhile the company operates at several places on the Antilles. On Aruba it’s one of the larger security companies. The Holiday Inn is one of their customers, the hotel Natalee Holloway disappeared on 30 May 2005.
Connecting the dots between these items:
1. GVC was with Natalee at Soul Beach
2. GVC was at CnC
3. A white car followed J2K as per the dutch AMW
4. A white car was seen at the GVC residence
5. GVC's fathers owns the company that operates the Beach Patrol and Hotel Security
6. The beach patrol was the first to be notified that Natalee was missing.
7. Certain hotel cameras were said to be out of order
8. Beth doesn't know about a hallway camera for room 7114. But, yes there is a camera there now.
9. Natalee was with a Dutch boy for several days
10. Joran just met Natalee at the casino
IF (again for HP) these items turn out to be true, then GVC is also a viable suspect. It COULD look worst for him than for Joran.
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| hawaiianpunch123456
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:55 am |
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My bad, I scanned and "hypothetically" was lost on me.
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| Isanah
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:26 pm |
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| hawaiianpunch123456 wrote: | | My bad, I scanned and "hypothetically" was lost on me. |
lol, you're not "lost" about anything, you're on a mission to deceive!
THANK YOU, JENNA! 
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| Isanah
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TY Jenna.
Posted by Jenna:
http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2314222830086931324YJXbbd
I don't see FEB & Ruth. I think Ruth would have added "we" went to the SF if she went, not Natalee went........ 
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