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Obscuregawdess
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:59 pm |
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Burnet has WM3 on HOLD
Friday, September 05, 2008
Thursday, September 04, 2008
Court: West Memphis Slaying Hearings On Hold
An assistant to Craighead County Circuit Judge David Burnett says a set of hearings scheduled to begin Monday for three men convicted in the 1993 slayings of three boys in West Memphis will be postponed.
Michelle Grilletta says Burnett is drafting an order rescheduling the hearings for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley. She says the judge told her nothing would be heard next week regarding the case.
Court officials said Burnett's order had yet to be filed Thursday afternoon.
Both Baldwin and Misskelley claim their lawyers failed to adequately represent them during their separate trials. Their lawyers also say DNA evidence provided by Echols' defense team shows the men -- known to supporters as the "West Memphis Three" -- did not kill Steven Branch, Christopher Byers and Michael Moore.
The Arkansas Supreme Court has upheld their convictions.
(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=71975&catid=2
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Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:29 pm |
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Thanks OG.
I hope we'll learn the reason for the postponement, and how long it might be.
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:53 pm |
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Yeah, he is supposed to announce the new date next week if I was informed correctly.
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:10 pm |
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Judge Denies New Trial For West Memphis Three
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
A judge has denied a request for a new trial for three men convicted of killing three boys in West Memphis 15 years ago.
Circuit Court Judge David Burnett issued an order Wednesday denying the request. Lawyers for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley -- known by supporters as the "West Memphis Three" -- had requested a new trial, arguing that new DNA evidence clears their clients.
Both Baldwin and Misskelley claim their lawyers failed to adequately represent them during their separate trials. Their lawyers also say DNA evidence provided by Echols' defense team shows the men did not kill Steven Branch, Christopher Byers and Michael Moore.
The Arkansas Supreme Court has upheld their convictions.
(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=72358&catid=2
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:13 pm |
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7:15pm-West Memphis 3 Development
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Reported by: Cecillea Pond-Mayo, KARK 4 News
Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 @07:11pm CST
Judge David Burnett has issued a ruling in the request for a new trial made by attorneys for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley. A source tells KARK the judge has denied the request. The three were scheduled to have hearings on the matter beginning this week. Burnett postponed those meetings and had stated he would issue a ruling as to the reason why.
Attorneys for the defendants claimed there was new evidence discovered last year that proves their clients did not kill three 8 year old boys in 1993.
KARK will have much more on this development coming up tonight at 10.
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:10 pm |
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6:50-More Developments in West Memphis 3 Case
(video on site) http://arkansasmatters.com/content/fulltext/news/?cid=111541
Thursday, September 11, 2008
6:50-More Developments in West Memphis 3 Case
Reported by: Cecillea Pond-Mayo, KARK 4 News
Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 @06:49pm CST
The wife of one of the defendants in the West Memphis 3 case tells KARK there is another piece of evidence which she says should call for a new trial.
Lorri Davis, who is married to Damien Echols, claims an Arkansas attorney is quoted in a sealed affidavit as saying he had conversations with a member of the jury in Echols and Jason Baldwin's 1994 trial.
Echols, Baldwin, and Jessie Misskelley were convicted of killing 3 eight year old boys in West Memphis.
Misskelley confessed to the crime, but later recanted. His confession was not allowed to be presented in the trial against Echols and Baldwin. Now Davis claims they have proof that jurors were discussing the confession during deliberations.
"We have proof from their notes, that they used the Misskelley confession to convict," said Davis.
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Defense to appeal in West Memphis killings case
Last Update: 3:15 pm
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WEST MEMPHIS, Ark. (AP) - A defense lawyer for one of three men convicted in the 1993 slayings of three West Memphis boys says a notice of appeal would be filed within days of a judge's ruling denying a new trial in the case.
Dennis Riordan of San Francisco, who represents death-row inmate Damien Echols, says the appeal would be filed with the Arkansas Supreme Court. The high court previously upheld the convictions.
Crittenden County Circuit Judge David Burnett yesterday rejected claims that new DNA evidence proves the innocence of Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley. Burnett also said that even if he agreed that the new DNA evidence should be heard in court, he would deny Echols' request for a trial because there was "not compelling evidence that he would be acquitted."
The men, known as the "West Memphis Three" by supporters who include music celebrities, were teenagers when the bodies of 8-year-olds Steve Branch, Michael, Moore, and Christopher Byers were found in a drainage ditch May Sixth, 1993, near their
neighborhood.
Baldwin was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole. Misskelley was convicted of first-degree murder in Moore's death and second-degree murder in the deaths of the other two boys. He was sentenced to life plus 40 years.
(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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http://www.fox16.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=b648b8a9-3cc6-4065-b1cd-be9047e7701a&rss=315
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Judge: No new trial for West Memphis killings
Associated Press - September 11, 2008 5:33 AM ET
JONESBORO, Ark. (AP) - A judge has denied a request for a new trial for three men convicted of killing three boys in West Memphis, Arkansas, 15 years ago.
Lawyers for Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley, known by supporters as the "West Memphis Three," had argued that new DNA evidence clears their clients.
But Circuit Court Judge David Burnett says he agrees with prosecutors' arguments that the absence of DNA didn't equal innocence.
Burnett also said that even if he agreed that the new DNA evidence should be heard in court, he would deny Echols' request for a trial because there was "not compelling evidence that he would be acquitted."
Both Baldwin and Misskelley also claim their lawyers failed to adequately represent them at trial.
The Arkansas Supreme Court has upheld their convictions.
Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=8989725
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:23 pm |
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Damien Echols: Order Denying Motion for a New Trial (1)
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:24 pm |
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Damien Echols: Order Denying Motion for a New Trial (2)
http://www.wm3.org/live/trialshearings/chrono_detail.php?chrono_Id=191&guy=1&year=2008#
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:26 pm |
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My question is: What would make them appear innocent or determine for Burnett they may be acquitted? If someone confesses, he'll play the Misskelley card or that why after all this time card... same with an eyewitness. I just wonder what it would take, and I believe NOTHING. It will have to go federal.
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Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:27 pm |
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About recent news.... Thanks! (ForDamien blog)
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&FriendID=41045221
Hey Folks,
Please I know it seems horrible what has happened. Judge Burnett is the SAME Judge that presided over this case in the past. He already made up his mind. We all knew he wasn't fair or going to be fair. He has already shown us his true colors.
Burnett was stalling things by playing with the attorney's saying he'd have a hearing. That took time for them to set it up. Then he was going to only waste more time if he was going to allow anything to happen in his court. He would have stalled things further if he pretended to listen to the new findings too.
Now it will reach Federal Court faster. It has to go through Supreme Court first, but now it can. We still have to do what we can to raise funds for Damien, Jessie and Jason.
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Even though this is fantastic to go to the higher courts, not in front of Judge Burnett, it is going to get costly. The guys need our help. This is huge.
"Under a government, which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison." ~Henry David Thoreau
"Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it -- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:12 am |
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| Obscuregawdess wrote: | | My question is: What would make them appear innocent or determine for Burnett they may be acquitted? If someone confesses, he'll play the Misskelley card or that why after all this time card... same with an eyewitness. I just wonder what it would take, and I believe NOTHING. It will have to go federal. |
OG it's great to see you posting...
Thanks for all of the updates.
Am I reading it correctly that even though the new trial has been denied by the same judge who presided over the first case, that in the long run it would be better to have it heard in federal court, so this may actually turn out to be a good thing?
A little OT...my son was home one weekend and I told him he had to watch Paradise Lost...while we were watching the trial he said this show is biased because they're only showing the parts of the trial that favor their POV, they're not showing the parts of the trial that showed why they were convicted..After I told him that was all of it, there was nothing else he couldn't believe it..
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| Obscuregawdess
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:40 am |
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| prolific wrote: |
OG it's great to see you posting...
Thanks for all of the updates.
Am I reading it correctly that even though the new trial has been denied by the same judge who presided over the first case, that in the long run it would be better to have it heard in federal court, so this may actually turn out to be a good thing?
A little OT...my son was home one weekend and I told him he had to watch Paradise Lost...while we were watching the trial he said this show is biased because they're only showing the parts of the trial that favor their POV, they're not showing the parts of the trial that showed why they were convicted..After I told him that was all of it, there was nothing else he couldn't believe it.. |
Yeah, this is probably a good thing... getting it to go federal quicker! It's just I hate Burnett's "true colors shining through". I wish he would surprise me!
I felt the same way your son did at first. So did my mother. When she read more and looked up more info, she was shocked to realize they showed pretty much everything and even decided PL1&2 tried to be unbiased but that it was difficult to try and make them look even possibly guilty.
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Jonesboro hearings info
Friday, September 12, 2008
Though Judge Burnett won't be hearing any DNA evidence-- just like for Damien's motion-- Jason's hearings ARE going to happen on Sept 24- 26 and Jessie's will follow them on Sept 29- Oct 1 in Jonesboro.
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It's official and it's be announced on wm3.org.
Maybe we can still get a decent amount of supporters to come out despite all the (deliberate) confusion and misinformation. Thanks for helping to spread the word!
Road trip to Jonesboro to support Jason and Jessie anyone? Perhaps you can find others in your area to take that road trip too?
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=41045221&blogID=432346111&Mytoken=860DA047-F165-485E-88CCB8D46342FB3311889417
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Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:27 am |
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I always said that that Burnett is a big asshole just as that prosecutor who prosecuted the case! It showed in the Documentary!
I also cannot believe that he's the one who's deciding on this, while he was the presiding judge in their case then....
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I agree, Hannie. Most of the other Arkansas judges are buddies of his too, hunting together and bullshitting like long lost soul mates. I can not wait for this to go federal! John Mark Byers promises to be the first to greet them, well Damien, and kick down WMPD's front door. I can not wait to see it! Burnett is, by far, a piece of shit to say the least. He did not even consider their petitions. He was just busy assigning each subject matter a number in the line of things to reject and finding a way to knock it down IMO. Grrrr!
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| prolific wrote: |
OG it's great to see you posting...
Thanks for all of the updates.
Am I reading it correctly that even though the new trial has been denied by the same judge who presided over the first case, that in the long run it would be better to have it heard in federal court, so this may actually turn out to be a good thing?
A little OT...my son was home one weekend and I told him he had to watch Paradise Lost...while we were watching the trial he said this show is biased because they're only showing the parts of the trial that favor their POV, they're not showing the parts of the trial that showed why they were convicted..After I told him that was all of it, there was nothing else he couldn't believe it.. |
Hi pro. That was my feeling too. I'd like to see both trials in their entirety. There are two books, both available on amazon and both worth reading. The only antidote to lack of information is more information. LOL.
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Allegedly, new evidence against Hobbs is ready to be presented in court. This evidence involves child molestation and Jacoby killing some of his alibi for May 5th. I anxiously await a hearing so that I can see the weight of these claims. Jacoby apparently is stating that he dropped Hobbs off near Robin Hood Hills to "search", which could account for a hair fiber of Jacoby's on the tree stump. The hair in Michael's ligature was an actual hair, not typically comparable to secondary transfer. Now, some believe Hobbs revisited the crime scene on several occasions. The pants that were found, buttoned and inside out, suggests maybe they were washed. I have heard variations of Jacoby's stance, one that Hobbs carried nothing but himself and another that he had a bag with him. Until one can conclude what Jacoby's actually claiming, it is hard for me to say much on that subject. If he did have a bag, I would assume he had their clothes in there. This is, of course, IMO because I do think Hobbs is guilty as hell.
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I hope Hobbs is explored in more detail. How would this evidence be presented in court, how would it tie in with the slayings for which the wm3 were convicted? What do you mean by 'Jacoby killing some of his alibi for May 5th? TIA, OG.
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| pax wrote: | | I hope Hobbs is explored in more detail. How would this evidence be presented in court, how would it tie in with the slayings for which the wm3 were convicted? What do you mean by 'Jacoby killing some of his alibi for May 5th? TIA, OG. |
Indeed, I believe he should be explored much more. In addition to his lying and inability to remember the simplest of things pertaining to him and his life on May 5th, a relative of Pam's who was Stevie's cousin claims they were approached by Hobbs, IIRC, for sexual types of things when they were a child and that they witnessed him sexually abusing Stevie and Amanda, Stevie's little sister. There was foreign matter on Stevie's penis that does not match the convicted, and a few years back a medical examination showed that Amanda was molested. Now, this is what I have heard from a source close to the matter, actually a couple of people. We shall see! It is believed that it ties into the case in the area of Hobbs' motive. Also, Jacoby apparently denies he searched with Hobbs and was with Hobbs each time Hobbs claims, and it is fact he issued a statement to police.
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Thanks OG. Yes, I recall more about Jacoby now. If new evidence is presented against Hobbs, I wonder how it might or might not tie in with the murders. There are so many strange things in this sad case. I hope truth is revealed. So much abuse, so much horrible stuff. Mara Levitt's book hardly mentions Hobbs. I wonder if she has written anything about Hobbs since her book was published. Hobbs was barely in Paradise Lost 1 and not at all in Paradise Lost 2, if I recall correctly. What the heck was his involvement. It's tough to keep track, but I recall other people saying his behavior was suspicious and violence involving his ex wife's brother or things like that.
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Yes, if you notice, every father and stepfather was crushed and openly so, very emotional and angry and everything one would be if this happened to their children or anyone they loved. Stevie's biological father tried to attack Damien in the courtroom and spoke to reporters, very visibly upset. Even Chrostopher's biological father was very emotional and stirred up, just was never focused on as much. We all know Mark Byers was enraged and devastated and, those that do not agree, will state he at least played that role. I now believe it was sincere, 100%. Todd Moore was extremely vocal and instrumental toward the accused's role, and you saw tears. Tears were seen and cries for justice, or what they felt was justice at the time, were heard by every father and stepfather involved, and from the mothers. You could see all of their broken hearts. Now, we have Hobbs. Each time they show him, there are no tears and sometimes very strange facial expressions, actions, and remarks. People say the same about Damien, however not when asked specifically about the murders. IMO, the three convicted show more remorse than the man I believe is guilty of the murders. On Geraldo, he was a little closer to seeming hurt until he speaks to Jessie's father. When Big Jessie says to Hobbs his son is innocent and didn't do it, all Hobbs said to that was, "He said he did it. He had a chance to tell the world, and he didn't." He usually just talks about how it broke his wife and tore the family up. You never see much emotion at all or reference to Stevie, and many would say he looks lost or in his own world. This is speculation, of course, but so many people, even Pam, note his suspicious behavior on May 5th and beyond. I think it is worth looking at, combined with the physical evidence and witness statements now against him. I just want the truth to come out, for the sake of the boys and their families that deserve justice, better late than never! You're right, it is just so sad. I do believe Hobbs is guilty and, if I am right, may the truth set everyone free, and the WM3 literally. Those boys need avenged IMO.
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Very good points, OG. The wm3 convictions should be overturned and all three should be set free. Hobbs should be explored in great detail, maybe even charged, imo.
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ITA, Pax! The WM3 were backed into a corner, almot forced to defend themselves with the Rule 37 Petition, since Burnett denied them the chance to present the new DNA evidence and other physical evidence. He read about them in other legal instances brought forward to him and developed a premature opinion and would hear no more. I do believe Hobbs is guilty but does deserve a fair trial if charged, and I would like to hear specifics to determine the solid facts surrounding his possible involvement. Byers insists Hobbs should take a polygraph, but it is rumored that his lawyer advised him not to. That doesn't surprise me, if true. That's typical of many lawyers in this type of case. I guess Byers feels he vindicated himself through the lie detector and, that if Hobbs is not guilty, he should do the same thing. Byers also has recorded conversations he has had with Hobbs that he says incriminate him and show he has lied to the police and public. He even employed Hobbs to work for him where he said Hobbs always carried a pocket knife, while he told the cops he never carries a knife. That's a small example of a lie, but there are many. He also said he told Hobbs what happens to pedophiles in prison, and that he turned "green" every time. I guess his tapes will be heard and the accusations and evidence supporting it in a retrial or a hearing for new evidence, looking like it will be in federal court. I honestly hope so!
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