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pax
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Man, the police should be demanding an interview with Jacoby asap!
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| Obscuregawdess
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Re: FWIW---
| Obscuregawdess wrote: |
He shows all the signs... In the kind of work I do, it looks like I could remember if it's strictly a woman thing, but I can't. He just showed all the signs to me!  Not really funny, but the shoe fits, imo...
When I am done with what I am doing, I'll look up some info and see. |
Münchhausen's syndrome
Emotional disorder in which a patient feigns or invents symptoms to secure medical treatment. It is the chronic form of factitious disorder, which is more common, and probably underdiagnosed. In some cases the patient will secretly ingest substances to produce real symptoms. It was named after the exaggerated tales of Baron Münchhausen. Some patients invent symptoms for their children, a phenomenon known as Münchhausen's by proxy.
http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/M%c3%bcnchhausen's+syndrome
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Munchausen by proxy
The word 'proxy' means 'substitute'. Munchausen by proxy is the infliction of a disorder on another individual. Specific symptoms include FD produced in children because of their caregivers or parents (almost always mothers) who induce illnesses on their children. The parent may falsify the child's medical history or tamper with laboratory tests in order to make the child appear sick. Occasionally, in Munchausen by proxy, the caregiver will actually injure the child to ensure that the child will be treated. Such parents enjoy the indirect attention that they receive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
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Ganser syndrome
Ganser syndrome is an extremely rare variation of factitious disorder. It is a reaction to extreme stress; the patient suffers from approximation or giving absurd answers to simple questions. The syndrome can sometimes be diagnosed as merely malingering; however, it is more often defined as an FD. Symptoms include a clouding of consciousness, somatic conversion symptoms, confusion, stress, loss of personal identity, echolalia, and echopraxia. Individuals also give approximate answers to simple questions such as, "How many legs on a cat?" "Three"; "What's the day after Wednesday?" "Friday"; and so on. The disorder is extraordinarily rare with less than 100 recorded cases. While individuals of all backgrounds have been reported with the disorder, there is a higher inclination towards males (75% or more). The average age of those with Ganser syndrome is 32 and it stretches from ages 15-62 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
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Factitious disorders are conditions in which a person acts as if he or she has an illness by deliberately producing, feigning, or exaggerating symptoms. Factitious disorder by proxy is a condition in which a person deliberately produces, feigns, or exaggerates symptoms in a person who is in their care. People might be motivated to perpetrate factitious disorders either as a patient or by proxy as a caregiver to gain any variety of benefits including attention, nurturance, sympathy, and leniency that are unobtainable any other way.[1]However, other more tangible benefits might be derived.[2] Related to factitious disorders are somatoform disorders which are characterised by multiple somatic complaints[3]; yet, while the presence of symptoms might be difficult to adequately diagnose, persons suffering from somatoform disorders do not deliberately falsify symptoms or mislead others.
Individuals with Munchausen syndrome may produce symptoms by contaminating urine samples, taking hallucinogens, injecting themselves with bacteria to produce infections, and other such similar behaviour.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
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Motives (for all listed, generalized)
The motives of the patient can vary: for a patient with Munchausen syndrome the primary aim is to obtain sympathy, nurturance and attention, while in the case of malingering the patient wishes to obtain external gains such as disability payments or to avoid an unpleasant situation, such as military duty. Strictly speaking, FD and malingering cannot be diagnosed in the same patient, yet clinicians find that patients' motives for the ruses can vary over time and, as a result, both diagnoses may apply. FD (sometimes called Munchausen) and malingering are both considered mental disorders. They are both, thus, listed in the DSM-IV-TR, but the difference is that malingering is done in reaction to the external stimuli; in other words, malingering is done to obtain some sort of benefit or to be relieved of something unwanted (i.e. a fake injury to sue in a car accident, etc). Individuals with FD wish to assume the role of a 'patient'(the disorder has been called various names, including polysurgical addiction, and professional patient syndrome).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
ETA: Inclinations towards factitious disorder
Groups prone to the disorder include females employed in medical fields such as nursing or medical technology, women ages of 20-40 years old, and loners with early childhood trauma. Cases rarely occur over the age of 45; the disorder usually lasts from adolescence to mid-adulthood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
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| Obscuregawdess
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About MBPS
(munchausen by proxy)
In MBPS, an individual — usually a mother — deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems by lying and reporting fictitious episodes. He or she may exaggerate, fabricate, or induce symptoms. As a result, doctors usually order tests, try different types of medications, and may even hospitalize the child or perform surgery to determine the cause.
Typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied by gaining the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child. Some experts believe that it isn't just the attention that's gained from the "illness" of the child that drives this behavior, but also the satisfaction in being able to deceive individuals that they consider to be more important and powerful than themselves.
Because the parent or caregiver appears to be so caring and attentive, often no one suspects any wrongdoing. A perplexing aspect of the syndrome is the ability of the parent or caregiver to fool and manipulate doctors. Frequently, the perpetrator is familiar with the medical profession and is very good at fooling the doctors. Even the most experienced doctors can miss the meaning of the inconsistencies in the child's symptoms. It's not unusual for medical personnel to overlook the possibility of Munchausen by proxy syndrome because it goes against the belief that a parent or caregiver would never deliberately hurt his or her child.
Children who are subject to MBPS are typically preschool age, although there have been reported cases in children up to 16 years old. There are equal numbers of boys and girls; however, 98% of the perpetrators are female.
Diagnosis is very difficult, but would involve some of the following:
a child who has multiple medical problems that don't respond to treatment or that follow a persistent and puzzling course
physical or laboratory findings that are highly unusual, don't correspond with the child's medical history, or are physically or clinically impossible
short-term symptoms that tend to stop when the perpetrator isn't around
a parent or caregiver who isn't reassured by "good news" when test results find no medical problems, but continues to believe that the child is ill
a parent or caregiver who appears to be medically knowledgeable or fascinated with medical details or appears to enjoy the hospital environment
a parent or caregiver who's unusually calm in the face of serious difficulties with the child's health
a parent or caregiver who's highly supportive and encouraging of the doctor, or one who is angry and demands further intervention, more procedures, second opinions, or transfers to more sophisticated facilities
Causes of MBPS
In some cases, the parents or caregivers themselves were abused, both physically and sexually, as children. They may have come from families in which being sick was a way to get love. The parent's or caregiver's own personal needs overcome his or her ability to see the child as a person with feelings and rights, possibly because the parent or caregiver may have grown up being treated like he or she wasn't a person with rights or feelings.
Other theories say that Munchausen by proxy syndrome is a cry for help on the part of the parent or caregiver, who may be experiencing anxiety or depression or have feelings of inadequacy as a parent or caregiver of a young child. Some may feel a sense of acknowledgement when the child's doctor confirms their caregiving skills. Or, the parent or caregiver may just enjoy the attention that the sick child — and, therefore, he or she — gets.
The suspected person may also have symptoms similar to the child's own medical problems or an illness history that's puzzling and unusual. He or she frequently has an emotionally distant relationship with a spouse, who often fails to visit the seriously ill child or have contact with doctors.
What Happens to the Child?
In the most severe instances, parents or caregivers with Munchausen by proxy syndrome may go to great lengths to make their children sick. When cameras were placed in some children's hospital rooms, some perpetrators were filmed switching medications, injecting kids with urine to cause an infection, or placing drops of blood in urine specimens.
Some perpetrators aggravate an existing problem, such as manipulating a wound so that it doesn't heal. One parent discovered that scrubbing the child's skin with oven cleaner would cause a baffling, long-lasting rash.
Whatever the course, the child's symptoms — whether created or faked — don't happen when the parent isn't present, and they usually go away during periods of separation from the parent. When confronted, the parent usually denies knowing how the illness occurred.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, some of the most common conditions and symptoms that are created or faked by parents or caregivers with Munchausen by proxy syndrome include: failure to thrive, allergies, asthma, vomiting, diarrhea, seizures, and infections.
The long-term prognosis for these children depends on the degree of damage created by the perpetrator and the amount of time it takes to recognize and diagnose MBPS. Some extreme cases have been reported in which children developed destructive skeletal changes, limps, mental retardation, brain damage, and blindness from symptoms caused by the parent or caregiver. Often, these children require multiple surgeries, each with the risk for future medical problems.
If the child lives to be old enough to comprehend what's happening, the psychological damage can be significant. The child may come to feel that he or she will only be loved when ill and may, therefore, help the parent try to deceive doctors, using self-abuse to avoid being abandoned. And so, some victims of Munchausen by proxy syndrome later become perpetrators themselves.
Getting Help for the Child
If Munchausen by proxy syndrome is suspected, health care providers are required by law to report their concerns. However, after a parent or caregiver is charged, the child's symptoms may increase as the person who is accused attempts to prove the presence of the illness. If the parent or caregiver repeatedly denies the charges, the child should be removed from the home and legal action should be taken on the child's behalf.
In some cases, the parent or caregiver may deny the charges and move to another location, only to continue the behavior. Even if the child is returned to the perpetrator's custody while protective services are still involved, the child may continue to be a victim of abuse. For these reasons, it's always advised that these cases be resolved quickly.
Getting Help for the Parent or Caregiver
Most often, abusive Munchausen by proxy syndrome cases are resolved in one of three ways:
the perpetrator is apprehended
the perpetrator moves on to a younger child when the original victim gets old enough to "tell"
the child dies
To get help, the parent or caregiver must admit to the abuse and seek psychological treatment. But if the perpetrator doesn't admit to the wrongdoing, psychological treatment has little chance of remedying the situation. Psychotherapy depends on truth, and MBPS perpetrators generally live in denial.
Reviewed by: Barbara P. Homeier, MD
Date reviewed: March 2005
Originally reviewed by: Leslie A. Gavin-Devitt, PhD
http://kidshealth.org/parent/general/sick/munchausen.html
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| Obscuregawdess
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| pax wrote: | | Man, the police should be demanding an interview with Jacoby asap! |
Yes!!!!!!!! I wonder if they have spoken to him at all. I do believe private investigators have or have tried to.
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| Obscuregawdess
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Already Posted, But Worth THE READ!
OG does believe Terry Hobbs did it.
The pieces appeared to be falling into place.
The DNA testing.
The discovery of previously unknown details about the night of May 5, 1993.
A potential new suspect.
So on Oct. 29, 2007, defense attorneys felt confident filing new federal court documents contending that Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley had been wrongly convicted of killing three 8-year-old boys.
The attorneys revealed the results of ongoing DNA testing, turning their spotlight on Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of one of the West Memphis boys.
Two days later, a panel of fo- rensics experts and a former FBI agent again pointed at Hobbs, saying he should have been questioned by police at the time of the slayings.
Hobbs, 49, is angry, saying that in the past year, defense investigators have ruined his reputation and caused him to have a nervous breakdown.
"I want people to know I haven't done nothing wrong," he said in a Friday night interview at a Memphis barbecue restaurant. "I want them to hear it from me." The defense contends that DNA results are irrefutable and that an evolving timeline of that night shows Hobbs had motive and opportunity.
Former FBI profiler John Douglas, who has investigated Hobbs for the defense over the past year, says his subject has a dark side. He says two separate interviews revealed very different versions of Terry Hobbs.
"You're talking to a saint - the all-American father, a great husband. And then there's the rest of the story. We are talking about two different people." It's been nearly 15 years since the nude, hogtied bodies of Stevie Branch, Michael Moore and Chris Byers were discovered in a drainage ditch that runs through West Memphis' Robin Hood Hills area, where the children often played.
All three of the boys had suffered numerous abrasions and puncture wounds. Most disturbing, however, were Chris Byers' injuries. There were cuts on his inner thighs and a portion of his genitalia had been mutilated and removed.
A month later, police arrested three locals: Echols, 18; Baldwin, 16; and Misskelley, 17. In two trials that focused heavily on allegations of Satanism, all three were convicted. Echols was sentenced to death, while Misskelley and Baldwin received life sentences.
Spurred by HBO documentaries on the case, skeptics from across the nation formed a grassroots movement that eventually came to be known as Free the West Memphis 3. Money collected by supporters eventually secured a high-profile team of attorneys and forensics experts, who, in recent months have revitalized interest and publicity in the case.
The crux of the defense rests on DNA testing that wasn't available in 1993.
In the court documents filed Oct. 29, 2007, defense attorneys said testing thus far hasn't linked any of the three men to the crime scene. And six forensics experts contend that animals - not satanic rituals - caused the boys' wounds. These injuries, they added, occurred after death.
Lawyers for Echols plan to take their new appeal to a state judge this month. The decision comes after U. S. District Judge William Wilson Jr. asked Echols to present parts of his appeal to state courts before turning to federal courts. Arkansas Attorney General Dustin McDaniel said last month that he's frustrated by "a misleading press campaign" suggesting that there is new DNA evidence exonerating the three men. And he stood by a state medical examiner's conclusion that Chris' scrotum was cut off by a knife.
A YEAR OF SCRUTINY Defense investigators arrived on Hobbs' doorstep in late February 2007. Hobbs was leery but invited them inside. "It was raining," he explained. The investigators, both from a private Memphis firm, had two questions: Can you account for your whereabouts on May 5, 1993 ?
Why didn't the West Memphis Police Department ever question you about the boys' murders ?
Before leaving, unbeknownst to Hobbs, the pair took cigarette butts from an ashtray in his living room and the front yard.
"They used to call that stealing," Hobbs said, thumping the table for emphasis.
Over the next few months, investigators talked to Hobbs ' neighbors and family. They also were in frequent contact with Hobbs' ex-wife, Pam, who has long accused Hobbs - to his face and in the media - of killing Stevie, he said. "She hurt so bad, she would lash out. She didn't think I was hurting and wanted me to feel her pain." During such arguments, he said, Pam would yell - "You killed my son !" Meanwhile, investigators continued to dig, tracking down a video from a neighborhood bar he used to visit with his ex-wife. The tape shows the couple involved in a lengthy fight, Hobbs said.
On March 7, Hobbs suffered an emotional breakdown, he said. He staked a sign in his front yard, putting the contents of his rental house up for sale. "I walked away. I put myself out on the street." He spent the next few months living in a yellow Ford pickup with his teenage daughter.
He can't explain why the investigators' visit prompted this reaction. "These are things men don't like to talk about," Hobbs said.
He also blames frequent media attention over the past 15 years. "None of us families have had a chance to go through the healing process," he said. "But I never let this thing take a toll on me until last year." Maybe it was because he was writing a book about the case, Hobbs said, adding, "You relive it." Meanwhile, the defense's investigation intensified, especially after forensics experts said a hair found in Michael's ligatures matched mitochondrial DNA on the cigarette butts taken from Hobbs' home.
In May, Hobbs met again with the defense investigators at their request. He stayed awhile but didn't cooperate, he said. Around this time, he began attending church and got a job in sales at a lumber company.
In June, he was summoned to the West Memphis Police Department for questioning. His ex-wife had been talking to officers about some pocketknives he once owned, Hobbs said, adding, "It wasn't nothing." On Oct. 9, Hobbs began attending support group meetings to deal with his stepson's death, he said.
A few weeks later, in the Oct. 29 filing, defense attorneys said further DNA evidence linked Hobbs to the crime scene. A second hair, found on a tree stump, belonged to a man Hobbs had visited the evening the boys disappeared, they said, adding that they didn't believe the man had been at the crime scene.
A few days later, Hobbs received a note from the support group he had just joined. It asked that he not return until "all the uncertainties are cleared up." Members of a second group have remained supportive, he said, as has the congregation of his current church and his coworkers.
THE DEFENSE'S THEORY Twice during the late summer, Hobbs met with former FBI profiler Douglas, once at a mall and again at the downtown Holiday Inn. The first interview was pleasant, he said. Douglas agreed, saying Hobbs presented himself well, making the retired agent wonder if he was investigating the wrong man. "After about two hours, I told the person I'm with - 'Jesus, I don't know about this guy. '" Over the next few days, however, Douglas interviewed others. By the time he was done, he knew Hobbs had lied repeatedly to him in the previous interview, Douglas said.
Douglas contends that: Hobbs beat his first wife and his second wife, Pam; he was abused by his own parents; he abused Stevie and his younger daughter.
The second interview didn't go so well. "He was rattled when we confronted him," Douglas said.
Douglas said he believes the killings occurred after Hobbs set out to taunt and punish Stevie and his friends. The killings happened, he said, when Hobbs realized things had gone beyond "teaching a lesson." The defense questions why Hobbs reportedly ventured near the crime scene during a search for the boys but then turned back, saying he had a creepy feeling.
"I know you've all heard the lowdown about me," Hobbs says in response during the interview at the Memphis restaurant. "But it ain't all lowdown." He's always been a good husband, he said, and while he and Pam once got into an altercation during which he slapped her and shot her brother, the abuse she suffered for many years was inflicted by others. That 1994 shooting, he said, happened in self-defense after the man jumped him. "Yeah, I shot the dude. He was a big guy." The brother survived the shooting.
Hobbs scoffed at investigators' assertions that he was abused by his own parents, alternately describing his dad as a man with a redhead's temper and as an upstanding Pentecostal minister.
He was reluctant to discuss the subject further, however, saying again that it's a "man thing." "They've gone around to my family and have put together things they said. I've heard some things I didn't know or care about. I had a good dad and mom." Asked about allegations that he disliked or abused Stevie, Hobbs said, "He called me Dad. We had a blast. We didn't have a hostile relationship." On the night the boys disappeared, Hobbs said, he did go down the path that led to the crime scene.
"I couldn't breathe. I froze. The hair started standing up." He described the odor of blood, saying he knows the scent because of the time he worked with his dad, a butcher, but said he didn't smell it on the path. "I had to get out of there. Something just wasn't right. I don't know what came over me. I don't remember if I told police." He's glad he wasn't the one to discover the bodies, Hobbs said, adding, "They were buried underwater." He finds it a strange twist to watch Chris Byers' stepdad, Mark Byers, go from being an implied suspect in two HBO documentaries to one of Hobbs' accusers. "They were bashing him, and I kept saying, ' He didn't do this. '" He thinks Byers and his exwife have turned on him because of attention and the promise of money.
"It shames you, something like this. That's the biggest thing I've had to deal with - shame."
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