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yankee-in-france Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:22 am
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Obscuregawdess Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:30 pm
New Evidence in West Memphis Murders Jul 19, 2007 at 10:07 AM Huge news day on the WM3 front. DNA does not match Damien Echols but does happen to match Stevie Branch's step-father, Terry Hobbs. This also means John Mark Byers has pretty much been cleared of suspicion. A twist no one saw coming. ARKANSAS TIMES by Mara Leveritt Reviving an investigation that ended 14 years ago, West Memphis police recently questioned the mother and stepfather of Stevie Branch, one of three 8-year-old boys murdered in 1993. Three teenagers were convicted of the killings. In a telephone interview on Monday, Stevie’s stepfather, Terry Hobbs, confirmed that West Memphis police had videotaped an interview with him within the last three weeks. Pam Hobbs, Stevie’s mother, also said she had been interviewed by police. The Hobbses are now divorced. Terry Hobbs, who lives in Bartlett, Tenn., said police requested the interview with him as a result of recent DNA tests on items found with the bodies. Prior to the police interview, he said, he had been informed of the test results by Ron Lax, a Memphis private investigator. Terry Hobbs said, “Ron claims that a piece of my hair is in the knots that tied up [victim] Michael Moore.” “Does that bother me?” Hobbs continued. “No, ma’am, it does not. Why? Because I don’t believe a thing he has to say because he’s working for the defense team. And because if my DNA was at the crime scene, I think [Prosecuting Attorney] Brent Davis would be the one to call me about that, and not Ron Lax.” Attorneys for the convicted men have said no DNA was found that matches their clients. Terry Hobbs said police asked him “a bunch of questions” about his activities on May 5, 1993 — the day Stevie, Michael and Christopher Byers, the third victim, disappeared — and the following day, when the boys’ bodies were discovered submerged in a drainage ditch. He declined to answer further questions about what he was asked by police. Pam Hobbs, who lives in Blytheville, said a lieutenant for the West Memphis Police Department also questioned her about her family’s activities around the time of the slayings. In the last couple of months, she has stated publicly that she now believes that the men convicted of the murders — Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley, Jr . — are not guilty. “We have stages of grieving that we go through,” she said. “I guess I came to forgiveness. I’ve always wanted to know the truth, and when I was called by the defense — knowing the DNA was being retested — I guess that was the big eye-opener.” Pam Hobbs said she “chose to believe all those years” that Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley were guilty, despite her realization during the trials that the prosecutors “didn’t have anything” and persistent doubts afterwards that the defendants “were smart enough or hateful enough to have done it by themselves and clean it up.” The state medical examiner ruled that Stevie and Michael died by drowning and that Christopher, who’d suffered stab wounds to his groin, died from loss of blood. Pam Hobbs said that in 2002, at a point when she and Terry Hobbs were separating, she sent a package containing “14 or 15 knives” owned by her husband to one of the defense lawyers. Pam Hobbs said that she had done so after discovering among the knives “a little pocket knife” that her father had given to Stevie. She said Stevie “carried it around with him all the time, because it was like part of his granddaddy. He would have had it May the fifth. He carried it with him from the day my daddy gave it to him until the day he was murdered.” Asked why, five years ago, she had given the knives to a lawyer for the defense, she said it was because she “didn’t trust the prosecution ... because of the evidence that was not presented at the trials.” Terry Hobbs dismissed the knives as having had “nothing to do with anything.” “I’d bought some, and found some and Pam bought me some. I just threw them in a drawer, and that’s where they’d been for years.” He added, “Them knives were stolen out of my home and I’m fixing to try to get them back.” Asked whether one of the knives was a pocket knife given to Stevie by his grandfather, Terry Hobbs responded: “I don’t know. It could have been. And it could have been it was in the drawer because we didn’t want him to have it. I didn’t want a kid of mine to go around with a pocket knife — not a kid who was 8 years old. Would you?” Terry Hobbs said, “I raised Stevie from the time he was a year and a half, until he was 8. I tried to be a good daddy.” As for his ex-wife, he said, “Pam’s got some problems. This thing has taken a toll on her. It’s really hurt her. “I don’t think she really supports the idea they [the convicted men] are innocent. I think she’s doing it out of anger. As a matter of fact, I know it’s out of anger. It’s being angry at the world and not knowing how to deal with her anger. “It’s kind of sad. And I’m really sorry that people think she supports that theory.” Pam Hobbs acknowledges that she has “held anger toward Terry,” in part because of his actions on the night Stevie disappeared. Terry usually got off work by 4 p.m., she said, in time to watch Stevie and their daughter Amanda, while Pam went to her job at a restaurant. On the day of the murders, Stevie, who had gone riding bikes with Michael, was supposed to be home at 4:30. He had not returned by 4:45, when Pam left for her job. She said she assumed that he was just late, and that it was not until 9 p.m., when Terry drove to the restaurant with Amanda to pick her up, that she realized Stevie was not in the car. “Terry told me he really thought he was going to find him and he didn’t want to burden me at work,” she said. “ But I held anger toward Terry over that — that he didn’t tell me Stevie was missing.” Another element of her anger, Pam Hobbs said, relates to her brother, whom Terry Hobbs shot in the abdomen during an altercation 10 years ago. That brother died last year. Terry Hobbs dismisses the episode. “The truth is,” he said, “when a man is trying to kill you, you have a right under the United States Constitution to defend and protect yourself.” Nevertheless, he acknowledged that he was charged with aggravated assault, fined and placed on probation. When asked if she now considers her ex-husband a suspect in the murders, Pam Hobbs answered, “Yeah. And I don’t know if it’s because of the anger I still hold toward him for not telling me when Stevie was missing, and from some of his other actions or not. But I haven’t been able to shake that feeling.” For his part, Terry Hobbs said he’s not worried and that he has nothing to hide. With regard to the retested DNA, he said, “I’ve been told that nothing that’s going on right now is going to change a thing.” Asked who’d given him that assurance, he replied, “Brent Davis,” the prosecuting attorney. Davis would not comment on what Terry Hobbs said about either the reported DNA or the chance that new findings would change the case. When asked who ordered the renewed questioning by West Memphis police, he explained, “I can’t comment on anything, one way or another, as it’s still in appeals and litigation.” http://kathybakken.vox.com/library/post/new-evidence-in-west-memphis-murders.html (Also, IIRC, Hobbs refused to take a polygraph.) "Bratty Mama Leci"		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:30 pm
Terry Wayne Hobbs vs. John Mark Byers? Friday, January 04, 2008 West Memphis, Arkansas--In a case that has had as many twists-and-turns as the aftermath of WWII, there is another bizarre development: John Mark Byers is alleged to have come out for the innocence of the West Memphis 3. At this time, it's impossible to corroborate as Byers is alleged to be claiming that he's been doing "undercover work" towards whether another step-father might have been involved in the murders of the three eight-year-olds back in 1993--Terry Wayne Hobbs. [John] Mark Byers has recently come out in favor of the innocence of those in prison. He has said he has helped perform undercover work, making tapes of his conversations with Terry Hobbs. He has made some remarkable allegations about Hobbs past. The supporting evidence for these allegations have yet to appear. (http://www.jivepuppi.com/Terry_Hobbs.html, November 15th, 2007) What's interesting is that there have been suspicions that Byers did in fact do "undercover" informant work for the West Memphis Police Department prior to the murders of his own step-son and the other two children. It's likely that the informant work was related to drug interdiction, as West Memphis is a well known corridor for the flow of illegal drugs through that part of Arkansas. It should be noted that Hobbs's and Byers' step-sons suffered some of the most brutal mutilations and violence to their bodies. This includes what could be a bite-mark (or the lashing from a belt-buckle) on his face. Christopher Byers, step-son of John Mark Byers, suffered mutilation of the genitals. Is Byers innocent? So far, DNA-evidence found at the scene has not fully exonerated the man, now purported to reside outside of Millington, Tennessee. Some of the results of the DNA testing are still unknown, but one of the hairs found on the bodies of the children in a a shoestring ligature (binding) has a positive ID: Terry Wayne Hobbs. John Mark Byers and Terry Wayne Hobbs--what's common to these men? That's answered easily: both were step-parents, and both were involved in patterns of criminal violence, breaking-and-entering, and heavy drug-use. They also show signs of being abusive in their homes and with the children of others. Both Hobbs and Byers also came from strictly religious and economically comfortable backgrounds. They did not grow-up poor as the West Memphis 3 had. Then, there is the mysterious David Jacoby: THOMAS FEDOR, FORENSIC EXPERT: None of the defendants could have been the source of that hair. None of the victims could have been the source of either hair. None of the DNA evidence from the crime scene connects any of the defendants to the scene of the crime. MATTINGLY: So, who could the hairs belong to? A defense petition in federal court says the DNA from one hair is consistent with that of Terry Hobbs. Hobbs is the former stepfather of victim Steve Branch. (on camera): Mr. Hobbs, do you feel like that the attorneys are accusing you of this crime? ROSS SAMPSON, HOBBS'S ATTORNEY: The answer to that would be no. MATTINGLY (voice-over): Hobbs agreed to go in front of our cameras while his attorney did the talking. And through most of my questions, Hobbs remained silent. (on camera) Is it possible, Mr. Hobbs, that that was your hair? SAMPSON: Sure. It was his son, Stephen Branch, who was murdered, and he's had to deal with this for the last 15 years. MATTINGLY (voice-over): Defense attorneys say a second hair found at the scene is consistent with the DNA of Hobbs's friend, David Jacoby, and that the two were together in the hours before and after the victims disappeared. Jacoby did not return our calls, but he did volunteer DNA samples to the defense. Authorities say they stand by the old convictions. West Memphis police have no plans to question anyone. ... (CNN transcipt, November 8th, 2007, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/08/cnr.01.html) And what of David Jacoby? What is his background? Who is he? His hair sample was found at the site where the bodies of the three murdered children were found, located on a tree stump. This is a relatively new name, and it should be noted here that Hobbs and Jacoby--both friends supporting each other's alibis on that day--have all generally remained out of the spotlight of this whole affair, ever since 1993. Hobbs in-particular has gone out of his way to avoid interviews until recently, while Jacoby has been relatively unknown to the general public until 2007. While the cops try to get their stories straight and lose more evidence in their custody, a real move towards exoneration of the West Memphis 3 is building. It is long-overdue. On November 18th of 2007, Pamela Hobbs was arrested for domestic abuse of her sister, Sheila Muse. Drug abuse is the suspected reason for her behavior, a trait she shares with her ex-husband (as well as problems with drugs). Her own daughter aided her in the beating of Muse. In an about-face, Pamela Hobbs is now siding with the calls for a new trial for the West Memphis 3. Still, there's the nagging question: what's John Mark Byers up to? Whatever it is, it appears that the real murderers of Steven Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers are growing restless. Everyone has to confess to their transgressions, and it's just a matter of when. When is coming soon. http://chickasawpicklesmell.blogspot.com/2008/01/west-memphis-3-update-terry-wayne-hobbs.html		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:34 pm
Pam Hobbs - Mother of Stevie Branch Arrested Posted by coltonleviclark on November 20, 2007 Pam Hobbs, Stevie Branch’s mother was arrested yesterday on domestic battery against her sister Shelia Muse. Shelia has bruises and marks all over her body and claims that Pam and Pam’s daughter Amanda beat her up and tried to attacker their elderly mother. Shelia claims Pam and Amanda were on drugs. They were both due in court today. Pam may have an outstanding warrant on an unrelated charge. In related news, a revelation came out recently that hairs at the scene of the crime in the deaths of Christopher Byers, Steven Branch and James Michael Moore may actually clear the three dubbed the West Memphis 3, who were also just kids at the time and were convicted on hysteria of the belief that these boys were devil worshipers. The three teenagers — Damien Echols, who was 18 at the time, Jessie Misskelley, then 17, and Jason Baldwin, then 16 at the time were found guilty in the death of the three 8 year old boys. Pam Hobbs is now in support of a new trial for the West Memphis 3 and publicly states her ex husband Terry Hobbs may have something to do with the murders. “Do you think honestly in your heart that he might have had something to do with this,” I asked. “Honestly in my heart…I have to be honest. Possibly,” replied Pam Hobbs. Damien Echols’ lawyers maintained that it’s not their job to solve the crime, only to show that their client wasn’t involved. But the defense team said two hairs found at the crime scene could belong to one of the victim’s stepfathers and the man’s friend. “The new DNA evidence is that one hair that was found in the ligature of the shoelaces that bound Michael Moore is consistent with the DNA of Terry Hobbs, who is the father of Stevie Branch,” Lax told CNN. He continued: “Another hair that had been found at the crime scene, which had been unidentified for all these years, has just recently been tested. And the DNA on that hair is consistent with the DNA of David Jacoby. David Jacoby is a good friend or was a good friend of Terry Hobbs, and Terry Hobbs was at his house just that afternoon and evening.” http://coltonleviclark.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/pam-hobbs-mother-of-stevie-branch-west-memphis-3-victim-arrested/		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:35 pm
August 15, 2007 (Terry Hobbs) 'West Memphis Three' Could Go Free While Step-Father Hangs By A Hair Frank Brooks author's email view author's other articles Join this author's mailing list Your Name: E-mail Address: Frank Brooks Beginning in the 1880's, perhaps the only scientific means available to aid criminal investigators in determining who was responsible for a crime was fingerprinting. Fingerprints were used as a primary method of identification until the early 1900's. Flaws in fingerprint evidence such as becoming easily smudged or destroyed completely, rendering inconclusive results, and the fact that perpetrators were able to bypass fingerprinting by using acidic substances to alter their own prints led scientists to look for a better method. Fingerprinting gave way to ABO blood typing, a forensic investigative tool that remained popular until human leukocyte antigen (HLA) typing became the premier personal identification tool in the 1960's. HLA typing was rendered powerful but eventually useless to all but a small percentage of samples. In the 1980's, DNA testing came to fruition and permitted investigators to perform a level of personal identification far superior to anything else available. For example, the DNA of a single hair root can be used to differentiate a person from all other persons living or dead. In addition to providing a solid scientific method of identification, DNA testing has been used to determine parentage in both animals and man. Unknown genes can be identified by DNA testing, as well as the possible inheritance of disease. DNA testing is used for positional cloning experiments. But for all of the wonderful things that DNA testing can provide, perhaps its original usage is one of the most important. Not only can DNA evidence identify the guilty, it can vindicate the innocent and wrongfully accused or imprisoned. It is DNA evidence that four men are looking at, though not all of them in the same light. For Jason Baldwin, favorable results would mean that he will not spend the rest of his life in prison. For Jessie Misskelley, DNA testing could not only allow him to go free, but provide evidence that maybe the West Memphis Police Department really did coerce a mentally retarded teenager into a false confession of a crime he did not commit. And Damien Echols may never have to take the ride from Cell Block Four of Varner Supermax over to Cummins Unit for a date with death via lethal injection. But for Terry Hobbs, the final results produced by DNA testing may point to something darker. If these final results mimick the findings of the preliminary evidence, a man who has spent fourteen years condemning three teenagers for the murder of his step-son and two other children may not only lead to perhaps his own wrongful imprisonment as many have proclaimed is the case with the 'West Memphis Three', but a decade and a half of secrets could come spilling out and bring this tragedy to an end. According the preliminary results of over two years of DNA testing, no evidence has been found that links Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley to the crime scene or the victims. This finding is all the more spectacular because not only have the results been acknowledged by the prosecution, it seemingly flies in the face of the myth that hair and fiber matches had been made linking the fabled 'West Memphis Three' to the murders, a theory that many feel largely helped Jason Baldwin into a life sentence and Damien Echols onto Death Row. Secondary transfer occurs when a fiber or hair is physically transferred from one person to another. It should be noted that the hair and fibers that the prosecution suggests came about through secondary transfer in this case are inconclusive. There was one shirt fiber that “may be similar” to an article of clothing found in the home of a defendant. However, it has also been shown that this fiber is similar to materials found in the home of one of the victims as well. There has been a hair found that “could belong to” Damien Echols, but has not been matched. It has not been proven that either the hair or the fiber belongs to any of the WM3, and actual DNA testing refutes this suggestion, rather than solidifies it. As far as facts are concerned, there is no physical evidence that Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, or Jessie Misskelley had ever been near Robin Hood Hills, had ever met or been near any of the victims, or committed any sort of crime. There was no murder weapon recovered, no witnesses who can place Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley at the scene of the crime, and no DNA evidence. So if the DNA evidence doesn’t point to these three, then who does it point to? Well that's another story entirely. According to the DNA status report filed by the defense and acknowledged by the prosecution, DNA evidence has arisen that can not be linked to either the defendants or the victims. As of this time, there is no identity match for the DNA, except for one surprising piece of evidence that managed to turn up. A strand of hair belonging to Stevie Branch's step-father Terry Hobbs was found intertwined with a knot in one of the shoelaces used to tie up one of the victims. This is no longer a case of similarity or possibility. Terry Hobbs has been genetically matched to the scene of the crime through DNA testing. Terry Hobbs says that the children played at his home often and perhaps a hair ended up in the shoelace through secondary transfer. In all likelihood this is a possibility. But what isn't said is that a shoelace bouncing around in Robin Hood Hills, being removed from a shoe, being knotted and tied to bind an 8 year old boy, being immersed in water, and lying around for over a decade – The hair was still with the shoelace. Still intertwined in a knot in the shoelace after all this time. That's either enough to arouse suspicion, or a very durable and strong piece of hair. This evidence does not make Terry Hobbs a killer anymore than it does the three who have been convicted of the murders. However, there is a chance that if Terry Hobbs were tried in court on this evidence and prosecuted in the same fashion as the West Memphis Three, it would most likely be Terry Hobbs holding a cell in Varner Supermax, not Damien Echols. These are very significant results in the DNA testing. No match for Damien Echols, no match for Jason Baldwin, no match for Jessie Misskelley. There is a match for Terry Hobbs and persons unknown. While this single strand of hair may not be the stuff that solid cases are made of, the Arkansas Judicial System finds it more than enough to indict, convict, and sentence people to life in prison and the death penalty. In addition to a scientific match between Terry Hobbs and the crime scene, there is also strange occurrences regarding his wife Pam. After 17 years of marriage, Pam and Terry divorced for one reason or another. While Pam was going through various belongings, she happened upon a knife that her son Stevie Branch always carried on his person. According to Pam, Stevie always, always had this knife with him, and it would seem strange that the knife was not with Stevie but in Terry Hobbs’ possession. It is possible that the knife could have been discovered at the scene and given to Terry Hobbs. Except that Pam knew nothing about it. If that is the case, this would be the second instance in which Terry Hobbs failed to inform his wife about her son, the first being when Stevie Branch originally went missing and Hobbs delayed telling his wife for 5 hours. Pam has openly stated that she is somewhat suspicious of her ex-husband, and is praying that the three men convicted are either guilty, or given a new trial. The West Memphis Police Department decided to investigate Terry Hobbs. They have conducted interviews with Hobbs and are now looking for any other evidence that may point him out as the killer. Between the DNA results and his ex-wife’s growing suspicion, trouble certainly seems to be brewing for Terry Hobbs. Many supporters see this as justice coming far too late. To quote one of them, "After all, didn’t the ‘West Memphis Three’ get convicted on less evidence that that?" For those who believe the WM3 are indeed guilty, this is just a defense tactic to try and get these men a new trial. For supporters of the case, this is a cause for hope that Echols, Baldwin, and Misskelley will be given a new trial, and that the real killer or killers will eventually be caught. Perhaps the final DNA results will yield the true answer to which persons decided to tie up three children, beat them to death, and leave them in a drainage ditch to die. For Terry Hobbs, being linked to a crime scene where your step-son was found murdered, and being suspected of murder by your own ex-wife can't be a position he'd like to be in. Did a loving stepfather really plan and execute the murder of three 8 year old boys? Is the same man who shot his own brother in the abdomen, disabling him for life, guilty of capital murder? Could it be that Terry Hobbs failed to tell his wife about her son's disappearance for five hours because he had a sinister reason to do so? For all parties involved, let's hope the final DNA test results will once and for all unmask the perpetrators of the murders and lay to rest the most famous case in Arkansas history. http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/35197		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:36 pm
Terry Hobbs w/ police: Must watch! May need to turn up pretty high. Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IFXsWO9OBMg Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RYLT4lb2SOk&feature=related Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X4e8zUOpNiI&feature=related Part 4: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qhEVugsKCKY&feature=related Part 5: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DaCcoihhmX0&feature=related Part 6: http://youtube.com/watch?v=URwFum_LzY8&feature=related Part 7: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JT_9_X7_Z7g&feature=related Part 8: http://youtube.com/watch?v=i5EJ6MlKleE&feature=related Part 9: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MYjOTENDBsI&feature=related Part 10: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oZy02evr2e0&feature=related		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:53 am
I must say I do believe Terry Hobbs is guilty of hurting and/or killing and dumping these three boys. Here's John Mark Byers now, talking about his belief in Hobbs' guilt. Pretty interesting! John Mark Byers VERY RECENT rant about Terry Hobbs/ Opinion on him murdering the boys http://video.aol.com/video-detail/byers-vs-hobbs-wm3-pt3/2941468668?icid=acvsv4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=KxKyQJg_Xjk&feature=related		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:57 pm
Picture of Terry Hobbs with ex-wife, Pam Terry Wayne Hobbs		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:09 pm
About Terry Wayne Hobbs http://www.jivepuppi.com/Terry_Hobbs.html Terry Hobbs at the Misskelley trial. Terry Hobbs was born in 1958 in Northern Arkansas, one of four children, son of Edith Raylean McLeod Hobbs and Joe Dean Hobbs, Sr. Joe Dean Hobbs was a minister in the Apostolic Pentecost Church. He learned his trade as a butcher while in the military and went on to open thirty restaurants. In spite of this family wealth, Terry was having difficulties making ends meet in 1993. He had been working several years driving an ice cream truck for Memphis Ice Cream Company. The family house on S. McAuley Street had no phone. Terry Hobbs has been in trouble with the law on several occasions. In 1982, Hobbs, then 24, assaulted Mildred French, 54, in her home. This attack involved Hobbs entering French’s home then grabbing her as she left her shower. In November 1994, after a fight wherein he severely beat his wife, Pamela Hobbs, Pamela's brother, Jackie Hicks, Jr., came to intervene. Terry Hobbs shot him. He survived. Terry Hobbs was sentenced to six months in prison. He was arrested for drug possession in 2003. Pamela Hobbs took out a restraining order against him in 2005. They are divorced. In contrast to Mark Byers for whom there is an extensive interview regarding his actions on May 5th, 1993, there are no official statements from Terry Hobbs in the case records. His file folder at the West Memphis evidence rooms was virtually empty. From the book Blood of Innocents, Terry Hobbs is said to have arrived home about 4:30 pm on the afternoon of the fifth. By this time, Stevie Branch had gone off to play with Michael Moore and would not return. Terry drove his wife to her job at Catfish Island, a restaurant near the Blue Beacon. Terry was then responsible for caring for Amanda Hobbs, their four year old daughter. When I visited the West Memphis Police Department in 2004, an officer brought up the subject of Pamela Hobbs. This officer said that Pamela had no idea her son was missing until Terry Hobbs arrived at Catfish Island at approximately 9:30 pm and the missing person report was filed. I commented at least Terry Hobbs had been searching for Stevie. The officer let out a loud "ha!" and then made the action of zipping her lips. The reasons why Terry Hobbs has not been considered a suspect have not been elucidated by the West Memphis Police. Although the neighbors of Byers and Moore were questioned during the door-to-door surveys, the Hobbs neighbors were not. The homes of the Byers and the Moores, but not the Hobbs were searched as potential sources of fibers. Terry Hobbs was not questioned by the police regarding that evening. "Mr. Hobbs also stated that he had never been interview by the police regarding his whereabouts or any information he had to offer about the search." [Exhibit X. Declaration of Rachael Geiser.] He was not among those polygraphed. Pamela Hobbs, 1993. Terry Hobbs Whereabouts on May 5th - Case Files Although many who searched were interviewed, the only ones who mentioned encountering Terry Hobbs were Officer John Moore, at the time of the missing person report, and Melissa and Mark Byers. Melissa Byers statements were general only stating that he searched, not when. Prosecutor John Fogleman: About how many of you were looking? Melissa Byers: Britt Smith, my son, another friend of Britt’s, Patsy - - Britt’s mother, Terry Hobbs, Pam Hobbs, my husband, myself, Dana Moore. [Melissa Byers testimony, Misskelley trial] In the Echols/Baldwin trial, Melissa is equivocal, vacillating between visiting each others houses to "she" or "they" visiting the Byers house. Melissa Byers: Um - I know the Hobbs were searching. You know, we'd stop by each others - you know, she - they stopped by the house. You know, there was - we was just searching. [Melissa Byers testimony, Echols/Baldwin trial] Mark Byers said that Terry Hobbs had contacted Dana Moore earlier that evening and said he had been searching since early on. From the context, the following account would have taken place at the time of Officer Meek's visit at 8:30 p.m. So then, the police officer, if I'm not mistaken, asked Dana, you know, how long have you been looking for your little boy. And she told her, you know, well, for the last hour and a half. And she said the Branch, uh, Stevie Branch, which his, you know, Mr. Hobbs, she said, Terry, which is Stevie's daddy has been looking for his since about 5 o'clock. 4:30, 5 o'clock. [John Mark Byers, May 19, 1993 interview] Mark Byers went on to describe encountering Terry Hobbs during the search and indicated that Terry headed in the direction where the victims were found. Terry said, well, he was going to spread out down, you know, towards where they were found. I don't know how far down that way he went, but he was going to look that way and my son, Ryan and I and Richie Masters, just somehow Richie Masters showed up to help look. And my son Ryan and I think, Brett Smith. Richie Masters goes with Brett Smith's sister. So that's how they were kind of together. So, we're looking in that area kind of where the loop is. [ibid] In contrast to where Hobbs went, this loop was in the Robin Hood Woods, south of the bayou and away from the victims were found. Richie Masters, Ryan Clark, Brett Smith and Robbie Young all described this search, but none of them mentioned Mark Byers or Terry Hobbs. This search took place approximately 8:30 to 9:30 p.m. according to different accounts. At trial, Byers described encountering Terry Hobbs after the Hobbs missing person's report (this would have been about 9:30 pm). Defense attorney Val Price: Alright, you had testified earlier that you had left that, well, alright, what time was it that you searched that area with Officer Moore? John Mark Byers: It was a little after 9, because he had told me that he had just taken a report from Terry Hobbs at Catfish Island. Then after Officer Moore showed up, Terry Hobbs pulled up. Price: Alright and so it was about 9:00 that you and Moore were out in that area that you just pointed to? Byers: It would have been a little bit after 9, after he took Mr. Hobbs' report. [Mark Byers testimony, Echols/Baldwin trial] Officer Moore described the encounter with Byers during the Misskelley trial. He did not mention Hobbs and said he didn't see any searchers other than Mark Byers. Fogleman: Alright after taking this report from her did you participate in any of the search? Officer Moore: Yes sir. Fogleman: Alright and what involvement did you have in doing that? What did you do? Officer Moore: Okay, I went down, down the street from Catfish Island to an area and I met with Mr. Byers and he and I searched an area off Goodwin Street. [snip] Fogleman: Were there other people searching? Officer Moore: Uh, there was other people there but, there was no one out there searching while I was there. [Officer John Moore testimony, Misskelley trial] Mark Byers described a meeting of family members taking place approximately midnight that included Terry Hobbs. About the time I got back to my house, that's when I met uh, Terry's, uh, it would have been Stevie Branch's grandfather. Pulled up in Dana Moore's yard in his truck, and he walked over. We were kind of like all standing out under the streetlight. Then it was me and my wife, Dana Moore, Todd was still at work and then Terry Hobbs. A friend of his with a beard that lived, I think he said on 17th street. . . (David Jacoby) [John Mark Byers interview, May 19, 1993] Byers also described encounters with Terry Hobbs the next morning, first near Catfish Island and later, about 9:30 or 10:00 a.m. when Hobbs, Byers and Steve Branch, Sr. sat together near the pipe that crossed the bayou. Terry Hobbs Whereabouts - Recent Evidence Terry Hobbs has recently spoken to the press about that day. "I worked that day like I've worked everyday of my life," he said. "I got home about 3 or 3:30, and Stevie had gone off riding his bicycle, playing with Michael Moore." [West Memphis Evening Times, July 24, 2007] This conflicts with Pamela Hobbs who says Terry arrived home near 4:30, when she had to go to work. This was after Stevie Branch, Michael Moore and Christopher Byers had come and left the house. According to Pamela Hobbs, after Stevie and Michael had headed out to play, Christopher Byers dropped by briefly and left when the Muppet Show ended (4:00 pm). According to Pamela , the Jacoby's said Amanda was with them while searching for Stevie - while Terry said he took Amanda. According to Terry Amanda was with him during those hours. According to David [Jacoby] Terry left Amanda at his house with his wife Bobbyie. [Pamela Hobbs, WM3 Discussion Board, August 27, 2007] Regarding his search efforts that night, Terry Hobbs has said: “Her [Pamela's] dad and mom came down; she went with them to look. . . I went with a friend. At different times we'd go to the police department. We spent all night driving around.” [ibid] A recent interview by private investigation firm of Ron Lax has provided additional information. Mr. Hobbs described, among other things, how he and his then four year old daughter Amanda had searched in his West Memphis neighborhood for Mr. Hobbs' stepson, Steven, during the late afternoon and evening hours of May 5, 1993. Mr. Hobbs stated that he had also searched for Steven that night with David Jacoby and Pam Hobbs' father, Jackie Hicks, Sr.; that during that period they gone into the area known as Robin Hood Hills; and that at one point Mr. Hobbs (unaccompanied by Mr. Jacoby or Mr. Hicks) had approached, but not arrived at, the ditch where the bodies of the victims were later found. [Exhibit X. Declaration of Rachael Geiser.] Terry Hobbs confirmed being in the Robin Hood Hills area during his state interview. His friend, David Jacoby, helped fill out the events. Mr. Jacoby stated that at about 5 p.m. on May 5, 1993, Terry Hobbs had come to Mr. Jacoby's nearby residence in West Memphis, Arkansas, with his daughter, Amanda; that Mr. Hobbs had left at about 6 or 6:30 p.m.; that he (Mr. Jacoby) could not recall whether Amanda had gone with Mr. Hobbs when he left at that time; and that Mr. Hobbs had returned to the Jacoby residence after about an hour, i.e., at about 7 or 7:30 p.m. Mr. Jacoby also stated that at this time, he accompanied Mr. Hobbs to search for Steven Branch, and that at one point they had walked to a bridge over the big bayou just south of the ten mile bayou and looked around. [Exhibit X. Declaration of Rachael Geiser.] His interview with the state added some additional details. In his state interview, Mr. Jacoby recalled that Terry Hobbs had come to his residence in West Memphis at about 5:30 or 6 p.m. on May 5, 1993 and played guitar with Mr. Jacoby for about an hour before leaving. Mr. Jacoby said that later that evening he accompanied Terry Hobbs while searching for Steven Branch. [Exhibit Y. Declaration of Donald M. Horgan] Hobbs vs. Hobbs Pamela Hobbs has said she believes her ex-husband may have committed the murders, suggesting that she doesn't have confidence in his alibi. Pamela Hobbs has gone on to recount this incident: ". . . in 2002, at a point when she and Terry Hobbs were separating, she sent a package containing '14 or 15 knives' owned by her husband to one of the defense lawyers." [Arkansas Times, July 19, 2007] In the appeals exhibits, this discovery is attributed to Pamela Hobbs sister, Jo Lynn McCaughey. In her state interview, Jo Lynn McCaughey stated that several years ago, she had discovered fourteen knives in a night stand at the residence of Terry Hobbs. She stated that her father had later identified the knife as a pocketknife he had given to Steven Branch. [Exhibit Y. Declaration of Donald M. Horgan] Pamela Hobbs went on to make the statement, "Steven carried the knife all of the time and believed he would have had it on the day of his death." [ibid] Perhaps most damning are statements given by two of Pamela Hobbs sisters (presuming they were referring to 1993). Ms. McCaughey and Ms. [Judy] Sadler also stated that they had been present in the Hobbs residence during the evening of May 5, 2003 (sic) and that during the evening, Terry Hobbs had washed curtains, bed linens, and all items of clothing in the house. [Exhibit X. Declaration of Rachael Geiser.] Pamela has attested to the violent side of Terry Hobbs. When Terry and I first got married Terry resented the fact that I would lie down with Stevie to get him to sleep at time falling asleep myself so he told me he told his mother he resented that because I was suppose to be his wife and not fall asleep with my child. Terry would whip Stevie and Amanda with a belt making them hold their hands in the air so he would not hit their hands Stevie always got the worst end and if I thought he was to rough with either of my children we would end of in a shouting match because I would tell him to stop. [Pamela Hobbs, WM3 Discussion Board, September 1, 2007] On March 15, 1994, near the end of the Echols/Baldwin trial, the Hobbs appeared on the Geraldo Show. In spite of the fact the cases had yet to be decided, a caption identified the defendants as guilty, the alleged part being whether they were Satanic. Byers vs. Hobbs Mark Byers has recently come out in favor of the innocence of those in prison. He has said he has helped perform undercover work, making tapes of his conversations with Terry Hobbs. He has made some remarkable allegations about Hobbs past. The supporting evidence for these allegations have yet to appear. Mr. TERRY HOBBS (Stepson Murdered By Alleged Satanic Teens) [similar captions were written identifying Pamela Hobbs and Jackie Hicks, Sr.] May 10th note, Officer Calvin Stann Burch, representative of the meager info available regarding Terry Hobbs.		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:37 pm
Patti's Paganism / Wicca Blog WM3: Victim's Mom Questions Convictions Monday July 23, 2007 Most people in the Pagan community are familiar with the story of the young men known as the West Memphis Three -- three teenagers accused and convicted of the heinous murder of three little boys. The convicted teens, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jessie Miskelly have been in prison since 1994. Echols in particular has been of interest to the Pagan community because he was labeled almost immediately as a "Satanist" and "devil-worshipper" by investigators. Fast forward to this year -- new DNA evidence has been examined, and Pam Hobbs is speaking out about it. Hobbs was the mother of one of the murdered eight-year-olds, Stevie Branch. Along with Christopher Byers and Michael Moore, Branch was found tied up and brutally murdered in the small rural town of West Memphis in May 1993. According to forensic specialists, a hair found in the shoelaces used to tie the boys has been identified -- and it doesn't belong to Echols, Misskelly, or Baldwin. Instead, it belongs to Hobbs' ex-husband, Stevie's stepfather, Terry Hobbs. Pam Hobbs says she was "blown away" by the findings. When asked if she thought Terry Hobbs was capable of killing the boys, Pam Hobbs replied, "I would say there is a possibility that he could be capable. I hate to say it because I'm going on my thoughts and feelings." West Memphis Deputy Police Chief Mike Allen has stated that at this time, Terry Hobbs is not a suspect in the trial. Pam Hobbs says that she doesn't believe Echols, Baldwin and Misskelly killed her son. As more examination of DNA evidence goes on, thanks to advancements in testing methods, Damien Echols sits on death row, and Jason Baldwin and Jamie Misskelly spend their days in prison. You can read more about the evidence and chronology of the case at WM3, a site dedicated to getting a new trial for Echols and the other two men. http://paganwiccan.about.com/b/2007/07/23/wm3-victims-mom-questions-convictions.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some reader comments: threetorches says: So why do you think it is unusual to find a family member’s DNA or hair on a crime victim? I would be more surprised if there was NO evidence that the victims had relatives. Of course hair and DNA from family members was found! It simply proves that the victims weren’t homeless, and had parents. We already knew that. July 24, 2007 at 8:23 am(2) LD says: Yes, there is the chance that a family member’s DNA would be on the child, but I would think that there would have been some DNA from the mother whom I would believe he was much closer to than the step-father. And I find it interesting that with the violence and work that had to go into this crime, that there was no DNA of the 3 convicted boys at all on this little boy. I feel that these Forensic Specialists may actually know what they are talking about. July 27, 2007 at 1:03 am(3) SBY says: The interesting part is that the hair was found in the shoelaces used to tie the boys up. Not the shoelaces on their shoes. That should not be in that place if the stepfather was not involved. Especially if he was an ex-husband at the time of the murders.		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:42 pm
? Assistance to ANDREA VORWARK & TERRY HOBBS in MO (FY 2000-2006) Summary Federal dollars: $229,100 Total number of recipients: 1 Total number of transactions: 1 Get list of recipients Get list of transactions Top 5 Known Congressional Districts where Recipients are Located Missouri 6 (Pat Danner / Sam Graves) $229,100 Top 10 Recipients ANDREA VORWARK & TERRY HOBBS $229,100 Recipient Type Individuals $229,100 Nonprofits $0 Other $0 Higher Education $0 Government $0 For Profits $0 Assistance Type Loans (both direct and guaranteed) $229,100 Other $0 Insurance $0 Grants and Cooperative Agreements $0 Direct Payments (both specified and unrestricted) $0 Top 5 Programs 59.008: Physical Disaster Loans $229,100 Top 5 Agencies Providing Assistance Small Business Administration $229,100 Trend 2000 $0 2001 $0 2002 $0 2003 $229,100 2004 $0 2005 $0 2006 $0 Expand all summaries to all values, not just top 5 or 10 (MAP IT) Search Criteria Used Federal Fiscal Year ALL2006200520042003200220012000 Assigned Recipient ID 39856 Sort By No sort (summary only) Level of Detail SummaryLow (list of recipients)Medium (recipient profiles)High (list of transactions)Extensive (detailed info)Complete (all information)Map Type of Report Output HTMLComma-delimited ASCIITab-delimited ASCIIXML END OF REPORT This search was done on May 24, 2008. http://www.fedspending.org/faads/faads.php?recip_id=39856&detail=-1 ETA: He is supposedly living in Tennessee, but Missouri is not far from where he was living presently. Just curious is all. I heard he was staying in Brentwood, Tennessee.		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:49 pm
HUGE break in the WM3 case defense attorneys filed a 200+ page writ in federal court today in arkansas demanding a new trial on the basis that there are other people that should have been considered suspects, and name one of them in light of the DNA evidence found this summer: terry hobbs. terry hobbs was the stepfather of stevie branch, one of the 3 8 year old boys murdered and dumped in a ditch, hogtied and bound, in west memphis, arkansas in 1993. a human hair was found to have been tied up in one of the knots in the shoelaces that bound the 3 little boys, but due to shoddy policework, the hair was never tested. until this summer. DNA concluded the hair belonged to terry hobbs, and police in west memphis concluded - if you can even believe this - that the hair that belonged to terry hobbs, that was tied INTO one of the knots that bound the drowned boys - was secondary transfer evidence. not on your life. there's great video here from a news broadcast this afternoon. here's another story that yeilds even more good news for the wm3. there are many more available on the web right now as well. there will be a live webcast of damien echols' defense team's press conference NOV 1 at 10am at www. wm3.org FREE THE WEST MEMPHIS 3! http://redhotjezebel.typepad.com/a_variety_of_fine_pickles/2007/10/index.html		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:50 pm
Terry Hobbs had the motive? "The writ includes scientific analysis from some of the nation’s leading forensics experts, stating that wounds on the victims’ bodies were caused by animals at the crime scene – not by knives used by the perpetrators, as the prosecution claimed. These wounds, and evidence about knives, were the centerpiece of the prosecution’s case." -excerpt from http://www.wm3.org/splash.php "A state pathologist had testified at trial that victim Christopher Byers was castrated — something Misskelley said he witnessed in his confession. That, too, was puzzling because the state pathologist, Dr. Frank J. Peretti, said such an unusual and jagged removal would have taken him hours to perfrom under pristine conditions in a lab. Yet defense experts say there was no castration. Rather, they concluded, the boys’ penis and testicles were removed by a predator that pulled the organs off in a manner similar industrial accidents known as “degloving.’’" -excerpt from http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/oct/29/new-dna-evidence-could-overturn-convictions-west-m/ "They came to hear new evidence that points to Hobbs' ex-husband Terry Hobbs as the killer and not the so called West Memphis Three. After about an hour, Pam Hobbs' sister came out and talked. "Terry Hobbs had the motive. Terry Hobbs is the one suspected of murder and the wounds that were inflicted on my nephew were where turtles bit his face. No knives and not weapons were used," says Jo Lynn McCaughey." -excerpt from http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7282320 http://www.wm3.org/live/newsevents/newsitem.php?index=1&news_Id=144		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:53 pm
Pam Hobbs on the Message Board? http://p210.ezboard.com/fwestmemphisthreediscussionfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=3547.topic&start=221&stop=240 Author Comment Share This Thread ---------------------------- Digg del.icio.us Google Bookmarks Yahoo Bookmarks Share on Facebook Blog This! bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 230 (12/21/07 3:02 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are right fearless he does. the timeline makes this about 9.30 to 10.30 which is before he goes to get David Jacoby but after he dropped Pam at home - odd that he would go off alone to search while Pam was left to walk over to Jacoby's to phone for assistance with the search. then when Pam gets back he goes to Jacoby's to get him to help? nah doesnt make sense does it? fearlessdove WM3DB Member Posts: 294 (12/21/07 3:08 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exactly Bitspecial, it doesn't make sense. To top it off JMB at this time thinks that Damien, Jason and Jessie are the culprits. He has no reason to place Terry Hobbs directly at the scene of the crime. bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 237 (12/21/07 4:17 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- good point fearless add to this that Terry picks up his wife tells her that her baby is missing takes her to RHH for some bizzare reason then drops her home alone to walk over to Jacoby's to call her family. where is he? Then after he does all this he does laundry? while claiming to be searching? time4one WM3DB Member Posts: 22 (12/21/07 9:16 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ....even tried to insinuate that Pam knew that Stevie was dead at 9:00 pm. OH NO Paid. You cant seriously believe THAT, can you? I do remember reading somewhere a post of Pam's where she talks of that very thing. She says she just knew. Mothers intuition or she just had a feeling or something like that. I'd read about it before...just hearing it out loud shocked me is all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I found what you guys/gals were talking about. It's from 2002. It sounds like intuition thru and thru. p088.ezboard.com/fwestmem...=1&stop=20 bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 254 (12/23/07 3:41 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe in Mother's intuition but i see it as more a collection of knowledge sitting just below the conscious mind. a feeling that your child is in harms way that you cannot get rid of, why did she have that feeling? I have a question that is bugging me hope someone can help. Pam said Christopher was in the lounge watching TV with Amanda until 4pm Terry says Amanda was watching TV 'as she usually did': in Stevie's bedroom. I don't know the layout of the house, both say he asked where the children were. Pam was cooking supper, so was presumably in the kitchen. Was Amanda in Stevie's bedroom or in the loungeroom? I just cannot help wondering if Terry's story to Mark about Chris asking Amanda to go outside to say bye to him because he wanted to give her a kiss happened that day and Terry was there. I am wondering if Christopher was still in the house when he got home and maybe Pam didnt notice because they were in Stevie's bedroom. Steve Branchs mom WM3DB Member Posts: 72 (12/27/07 11:17 am) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher had already left when Terry arrived home on May 5th. The children Amanda and Christopher watched the muppet babies in the den which was next to the kitchen. I went outside to get my uniform out of the dryer ( for some reason the dryer hook up was inside a storage off the garage) when Terry came home. Terry told Mark about Christopher wanting to kiss Amanda after his death and no it did not happen the day Christopher died. Hope this info helps as so many continue to have their thoughts and theories about this. Soon the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL! My first words were my son is dead I will never see him alive again came from knowing my son. I had a great little man who held honor roll his short years of school he loved a challenge and did his best to acheive and master anything he challenged! He not only was the apple of my eye but I know I was his number one as well. So when he did not come home my spirit knew to prepare for the worst nightmare I have ever had in this lifetime. Indeed, Pam bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 292 (12/28/07 3:28 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks Pam, I apprecite you answering that because Terry claimed he didnt see Amanda when he came in only asked where she was. i believe you ,and always check his story with your facts. I agree a Mother just knows. something you say always touches my heart when you write, you touch on the hurt and fear in all of us, and then express the pure joy of being a Mother and give it balance and depth. fatbratt68 WM3DB Member Posts: 115 (12/30/07 11:35 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 UPDATED VERSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ms. Pam--- I really hate asking you questions, because I feel intrusive doing so. But I've searched and cannot find the answer to one question. And if you don't feel inclined to answer or feel offended at such, please feel free to ignore. I have nothing but respect and empathy for you, regardless of your response or stance that you now take. If you do feel inclined to answer, I was just wondering, as are a few others, what pickup truck(s), color/model, etc., did Mr. Hobbs own during the 90's that you can recall? As he mentioned owning and restoring old trucks in his recent wmpd interview, this question has come up. Again, I hope you don't feel an intrusion with the influx of questions. I don't believe it's anybody's intention here to overwhelm you with questions and absolutely no disrespect to you and what you've suffered and are suffering. It's just that you are the only source of information pertaining to some situations that we have available at the time. But again, you are not obligated to give anybody on any of these boards an explanation of anything. It's your right and your choosing. All that you've provided has been deeply appreciated. My sincere regards, bratt gullydevi WM3DB Member Posts: 344 (12/30/07 11:40 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bratt, your question was very nicely stated, if I might say? NU2U WM3DB Member Posts: 427 (12/31/07 12:03 am) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You guys are weird. You take the long way around the short block. I'm certain you can't just say "YO PAM" "Tell us this" or not, but if you would..... Can you tell us what vehicle Terry was driving when he picked you up at work on 5/05/93. What other vehicle did y'all have and was it at the house too? etc.. etc... And Pam, "You da' woman". gullydevi WM3DB Member Posts: 348 (12/31/07 12:18 am) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You guys are weird. You take the long way around the short block. I'm certain you can't just say "YO PAM" "Tell us this" or not, but if you would..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We just need an ongoing "Yo Pam" forum? Steve Branchs mom WM3DB Member Posts: 77 (12/31/07 3:05 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You guys crack me up some times!! LOL Not mentally. I need a good laugh at times. Terry had a 19 60 something not sure of the year but it was a Chevy in which he painted Blue. It was a threespeed truck hard for me to drive but I did learn how after a few tries at it. I am glad I can be of some help for those who take me for my word for those who doubt me, that is your right as well!! NU2U WM3DB Member Posts: 437 (12/31/07 3:09 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 UPDATED VERSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good Job Pam. I STILL can't drive a 3spd. Gotta be smarter than the truck, and I just don't have it. bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 311 (1/1/08 2:45 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 UPDATED VERSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yo Pam .........hahahahaa Bobby DÁngelo said he helped Terry move out a couple of days after the children were killed. Did you move to Blytheville within days? I am thinking you went straight to your parents ( I would have, so forgive me for assuming) Terry get rid of that truck soon after? fearlessdove WM3DB Member Posts: 339 (1/1/08 2:55 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Pam, Do you remember if there was a cover/canopy or back on Terry's truck or was it the wide open kind? Editing to ask another question. Sorry if you've been asked this before Pam, I couldn't find the answer anywhere. It's about the diary Terry started writing. Was Terry in the habit of writing a diary, or was this something totally new? Edited by: fearlessdove at: 1/1/08 4:40 pm Steve Branchs mom WM3DB Member Posts: 78 (1/2/08 1:52 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We moved to Blytheville shortly after Stevies furneral. But went to stay with my parent May 7, 1993. Terry got rid of the truck once the trials were over and we moved to Memphis. He sold it to Mike Jeffers soninlaw who lived in Memphis also. It was an open bed truck. Stevies new bike got thrown in a ditch along with his body. Yes Terry had his pocketknife and I kept his TV until last year before my dad got sick we dropped it and the back of it broke. Hope that answers what questions I have been asked. TAKE CARE ALL! HAPPY 2008 I have a feeling it's going to be GREAT!! Pam bitspecial WM3DB Member Posts: 314 (1/2/08 2:39 pm) Reply Re: Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- love to you Pam. I hope this year is wonderful for you. God bless. fearlessdove WM3DB Member Posts: 356 (1/2/08 3:47 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 UPDATED VERSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Pam, thanks for answering questions Happy New Years to you as well. Many Blessings and much Love to you. 2008 is going to be a great year gullydevi WM3DB Member Posts: 372 (1/2/08 4:39 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 UPDATED VERSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TAKE CARE ALL! HAPPY 2008 I have a feeling it's going to be GREAT!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Happy New Year Pam! momWI WM3DB Member Posts: 402 (1/2/08 5:57 pm) Reply Re: Terry Hobbs Speaks. WMPD 21 June 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This has been an interesting thread! ... thanks Pam for all the questioning. I can't imagine how painful it must be to have to re live this over and over. My motto is to be "great in 2008"..(i have been using that to motivate my mary kay unit) Its funny that you say something similar. LOL!! I know that this is going to be an incredible year!!! - Rebekah		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:01 pm
...While Step-Father Hangs By A Hair 'West Memphis Three' Could Go Free While Step-Father Hangs By A Hair Frank Brooks August 15, 2007 Beginning in the 1880's, perhaps the only scientific means available to aid criminal investigators in determining who was responsible for a crime was fingerprinting. Fingerprints were used as a primary method of identification until the early 1900's. Flaws in fingerprint evidence such as becoming easily smudged or destroyed completely, rendering inconclusive results, and the fact that perpetrators were able to bypass fingerprinting by using acidic substances to alter their own prints led scientists to look for a better method. Fingerprinting gave way to ABO blood typing, a forensic investigative tool that remained popular until human leukocyte antigen (HLA) typing became the premier personal identification tool in the 1960's. HLA typing was rendered powerful but eventually useless to all but a small percentage of samples. In the 1980's, DNA testing came to fruition and permitted investigators to perform a level of personal identification far superior to anything else available. For example, the DNA of a single hair root can be used to differentiate a person from all other persons living or dead. In addition to providing a solid scientific method of identification, DNA testing has been used to determine parentage in both animals and man. Unknown genes can be identified by DNA testing, as well as the possible inheritance of disease. DNA testing is used for positional cloning experiments. But for all of the wonderful things that DNA testing can provide, perhaps its original usage is one of the most important. Not only can DNA evidence identify the guilty, it can vindicate the innocent and wrongfully accused or imprisoned. It is DNA evidence that four men are looking at, though not all of them in the same light. For Jason Baldwin, favorable results would mean that he will not spend the rest of his life in prison. For Jessie Misskelley, DNA testing could not only allow him to go free, but provide evidence that maybe the West Memphis Police Department really did coerce a mentally retarded teenager into a false confession of a crime he did not commit. And Damien Echols may never have to take the ride from Cell Block Four of Varner Supermax over to Cummins Unit for a date with death via lethal injection. But for Terry Hobbs, the final results produced by DNA testing may point to something darker. If these final results mimick the findings of the preliminary evidence, a man who has spent fourteen years condemning three teenagers for the murder of his step-son and two other children may not only lead to perhaps his own wrongful imprisonment as many have proclaimed is the case with the 'West Memphis Three', but a decade and a half of secrets could come spilling out and bring this tragedy to an end. According the preliminary results of over two years of DNA testing, no evidence has been found that links Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley to the crime scene or the victims. This finding is all the more spectacular because not only have the results been acknowledged by the prosecution, it seemingly flies in the face of the myth that hair and fiber matches had been made linking the fabled 'West Memphis Three' to the murders, a theory that many feel largely helped Jason Baldwin into a life sentence and Damien Echols onto Death Row. Secondary transfer occurs when a fiber or hair is physically transferred from one person to another. It should be noted that the hair and fibers that the prosecution suggests came about through secondary transfer in this case are inconclusive. There was one shirt fiber that “may be similar” to an article of clothing found in the home of a defendant. However, it has also been shown that this fiber is similar to materials found in the home of one of the victims as well. There has been a hair found that “could belong to” Damien Echols, but has not been matched. It has not been proven that either the hair or the fiber belongs to any of the WM3, and actual DNA testing refutes this suggestion, rather than solidifies it. As far as facts are concerned, there is no physical evidence that Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, or Jessie Misskelley had ever been near Robin Hood Hills, had ever met or been near any of the victims, or committed any sort of crime. There was no murder weapon recovered, no witnesses who can place Echols, Baldwin, or Misskelley at the scene of the crime, and no DNA evidence. So if the DNA evidence doesn’t point to these three, then who does it point to? Well that's another story entirely. According to the DNA status report filed by the defense and acknowledged by the prosecution, DNA evidence has arisen that can not be linked to either the defendants or the victims. As of this time, there is no identity match for the DNA, except for one surprising piece of evidence that managed to turn up. A strand of hair belonging to Stevie Branch's step-father Terry Hobbs was found intertwined with a knot in one of the shoelaces used to tie up one of the victims. This is no longer a case of similarity or possibility. Terry Hobbs has been genetically matched to the scene of the crime through DNA testing. Terry Hobbs says that the children played at his home often and perhaps a hair ended up in the shoelace through secondary transfer. In all likelihood this is a possibility. But what isn't said is that a shoelace bouncing around in Robin Hood Hills, being removed from a shoe, being knotted and tied to bind an 8 year old boy, being immersed in water, and lying around for over a decade – The hair was still with the shoelace. Still intertwined in a knot in the shoelace after all this time. That's either enough to arouse suspicion, or a very durable and strong piece of hair. This evidence does not make Terry Hobbs a killer anymore than it does the three who have been convicted of the murders. However, there is a chance that if Terry Hobbs were tried in court on this evidence and prosecuted in the same fashion as the West Memphis Three, it would most likely be Terry Hobbs holding a cell in Varner Supermax, not Damien Echols. These are very significant results in the DNA testing. No match for Damien Echols, no match for Jason Baldwin, no match for Jessie Misskelley. There is a match for Terry Hobbs and persons unknown. While this single strand of hair may not be the stuff that solid cases are made of, the Arkansas Judicial System finds it more than enough to indict, convict, and sentence people to life in prison and the death penalty. In addition to a scientific match between Terry Hobbs and the crime scene, there is also strange occurrences regarding his wife Pam. After 17 years of marriage, Pam and Terry divorced for one reason or another. While Pam was going through various belongings, she happened upon a knife that her son Stevie Branch always carried on his person. According to Pam, Stevie always, always had this knife with him, and it would seem strange that the knife was not with Stevie but in Terry Hobbs’ possession. It is possible that the knife could have been discovered at the scene and given to Terry Hobbs. Except that Pam knew nothing about it. If that is the case, this would be the second instance in which Terry Hobbs failed to inform his wife about her son, the first being when Stevie Branch originally went missing and Hobbs delayed telling his wife for 5 hours. Pam has openly stated that she is somewhat suspicious of her ex-husband, and is praying that the three men convicted are either guilty, or given a new trial. The West Memphis Police Department decided to investigate Terry Hobbs. They have conducted interviews with Hobbs and are now looking for any other evidence that may point him out as the killer. Between the DNA results and his ex-wife’s growing suspicion, trouble certainly seems to be brewing for Terry Hobbs. Many supporters see this as justice coming far too late. To quote one of them, "After all, didn’t the ‘West Memphis Three’ get convicted on less evidence that that?" For those who believe the WM3 are indeed guilty, this is just a defense tactic to try and get these men a new trial. For supporters of the case, this is a cause for hope that Echols, Baldwin, and Misskelley will be given a new trial, and that the real killer or killers will eventually be caught. Perhaps the final DNA results will yield the true answer to which persons decided to tie up three children, beat them to death, and leave them in a drainage ditch to die. For Terry Hobbs, being linked to a crime scene where your step-son was found murdered, and being suspected of murder by your own ex-wife can't be a position he'd like to be in. Did a loving stepfather really plan and execute the murder of three 8 year old boys? Is the same man who shot his own brother in the abdomen, disabling him for life, guilty of capital murder? Could it be that Terry Hobbs failed to tell his wife about her son's disappearance for five hours because he had a sinister reason to do so? For all parties involved, let's hope the final DNA test results will once and for all unmask the perpetrators of the murders and lay to rest the most famous case in Arkansas history. http://www.sacramentochronicle.com/articles/35197		"Bratty Mama Leci" Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 11754 Location: Kentucky



Obscuregawdess Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:07 pm
Reputation is ruined, says stepdad of boy killed in ’93 BY CATHY FRYE Posted on Sunday, February 3, 2008 The pieces appeared to be falling into place. The DNA testing. The discovery of previously unknown details about the night of May 5, 1993. A potential new suspect. So on Oct. 29, 2007, defense attorneys felt confident filing new federal court documents contending that Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley had been wrongly convicted of killing three 8-year-old boys. The attorneys revealed the results of ongoing DNA testing, turning their spotlight on Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of one of the West Memphis boys. Two days later, a panel of fo- rensics experts and a former FBI agent again pointed at Hobbs, saying he should have been questioned by police at the time of the slayings. Hobbs, 49, is angry, saying that in the past year, defense investigators have ruined his reputation and caused him to have a nervous breakdown. “I want people to know I haven’t done nothing wrong,” he said in a Friday night interview at a Memphis barbecue restaurant. “I want them to hear it from me.” The defense contends that DNA results are irrefutable and that an evolving timeline of that night shows Hobbs had motive and opportunity. Former FBI profiler John Douglas, who has investigated Hobbs for the defense over the past year, says his subject has a dark side. He says two separate interviews revealed very different versions of Terry Hobbs. “You’re talking to a saint — the all-American father, a great husband. And then there’s the rest of the story. We are talking about two different people.” It’s been nearly 15 years since the nude, hogtied bodies of Stevie Branch, Michael Moore and Chris Byers were discovered in a drainage ditch that runs through West Memphis’ Robin Hood Hills area, where the children often played. All three of the boys had suffered numerous abrasions and puncture wounds. Most disturbing, however, were Chris Byers’ injuries. There were cuts on his inner thighs and a portion of his genitalia had been mutilated and removed. A month later, police arrested three locals: Echols, 18; Baldwin, 16; and Misskelley, 17. In two trials that focused heavily on allegations of Satanism, all three were convicted. Echols was sentenced to death, while Misskelley and Baldwin received life sentences. Spurred by HBO documentaries on the case, skeptics from across the nation formed a grassroots movement that eventually came to be known as Free the West Memphis 3. Money collected by supporters eventually secured a high-profile team of attorneys and forensics experts, who, in recent months have revitalized interest and publicity in the case. The crux of the defense rests on DNA testing that wasn’t available in 1993. In the court documents filed Oct. 29, 2007, defense attorneys said testing thus far hasn’t linked any of the three men to the crime scene. And six forensics experts contend that animals — not satanic rituals — caused the boys’ wounds. These injuries, they added, occurred after death. Lawyers for Echols plan to take their new appeal to a state judge this month. The decision comes after U. S. District Judge William Wilson Jr. asked Echols to present parts of his appeal to state courts before turning to federal courts. Arkansas Attorney General Dustin McDaniel said last month that he’s frustrated by “a misleading press campaign” suggesting that there is new DNA evidence exonerating the three men. And he stood by a state medical examiner’s conclusion that Chris’ scrotum was cut off by a knife. A YEAR OF SCRUTINY Defense investigators arrived on Hobbs’ doorstep in late February 2007. Hobbs was leery but invited them inside. “It was raini