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jenna
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:02 am |
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For those that want to believe Natalee is alive....
I have a file of many people (Aruba sources say there were about 200 people that made claims) who want somebody to investigate whether Natalee is alive. Here is an example of one of the last ones in the file. The trail of Natalee alive seemed to disappear about June 23-25. Why aren't people focusing on those leads? If she is dead, she is dead. If she is alive, she desperately needs help and is not getting it.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: Natie
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I did not want to share this but she was apparantly seen again with the 2 dark skinned guys (rasta-guys) in the neighborhood of Pos Chiquito as they were walking at night, according to sources.. This is why I asked PGW if she sees anything in Savaneta area. But I do not understand why this source could not follow them secretly and watching were they are walking to.... She was seen saturday... Maybe she met them at the soul festival or they can be securities that work for Marriot, Holiday Inn or Moomba Beach?. Only GOD knows so far...
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: Natie
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Sorry, I meant Natalee was apparantly seen with 2 guys in Pos Chiquito as they were walking.. But I am just posting this to let our guys know that we hear both sides of this case here:
1. She is dead and buried somewhere
2. She is alive and is being helped or held by 2 guys.
Many americans and dutch women (blondes) live here. So I can not assure you that this lady who has been seen different times (3x) is really Natie or someone who looks like her.
This is why I can not be sure if she is dead or alive.. Imagine.
Red
Red answers questions: June 28
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: Natie
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Bluerug.
1. She was still blond, but had a cap on, a Giligan Island like cap.
2. Black & white tv?. NOT, in a museum maybe. Highly unlikely
unless it is at an illegal- allien with no income..Think not even them.
3. Blue rug on the wall, a european might have one yes. Like i Holland
this is modern..
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| jenna
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:29 am |
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Aruba sources say that there is quite a trail of sighting of Natalee look alikes. Nobody ever responds to the possibility that Natalee may be alive. Just like here when it gets the attention of---NOBODY.
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| Narcissist71
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:34 am |
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I think there is the possibility out there that NH is alive.......probable, I'm not sure.
I would think that if someone saw her on the island they would report the sighting to ALE.......
I mean it wasn't the police that found E. Smart here in the states.....or even the little Groene girl......
it was citizens that reported seeing someone that fit the description.
I hope that NH is alive and well on the island of Aruba......but with just hearing of sightings I'm not convinced.......
We still have Big Foot sightings in the U.S. if that tells you anything.
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| jenna
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:10 am |
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There is a traill of Natalee look alike stories with common themes:
1. the location shows that the path moved farther toward San Nicholas
2. the description suggest that she is with certain people with similar descriptions.
Of course, nobody including the LE and FBI would pursue Natalee look alikes because law enforcement protocols say that statistically anybody not found after 48 hours is dead. Well guess what, the protocol does not allow LE to look until after 48 hours--so anybody MISSING is presumed DEAD.
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| Fiery
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:19 am |
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well, if you have all this information maybe you should call Dompig up directly and tell him what you think. I also recall that some commenters on the blogs have called the FBI and talked to them. On person said they called the FBI in Miami because they are the big office that oversees the little offices. That poster was treated very nicely.
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| jenna
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:43 am |
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| Fiery wrote: | | well, if you have all this information maybe you should call Dompig up directly and tell him what you think. I also recall that some commenters on the blogs have called the FBI and talked to them. On person said they called the FBI in Miami because they are the big office that oversees the little offices. That poster was treated very nicely. |
The FBI office in Birmingham was the only office that accepted leads in this case. Other people will tell you that. The Aruban ALE has all of the leads about Natalee look alikes. If Natalee is ever found alive, it will be by chance. This case started out as extremely high profile because Beth Twitty stormed Aruba like it was the Norman invasion. Natalee was dead after 48-72 hours because Beth established Natalee's character as a person who was never late. Did Beth know Natalee?
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| Hannie
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:52 am |
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Alot of people on some blogs still have that feeling jenna, that natalee is alive. I`m one of them, although it looks more and more slim, but lots of times I thought maybe it`s just wishful thinking of me, but boy do I hope she`s alive, hell yes!
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| Fiery
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:53 am |
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Jenna, all FBI offices, anywhere accept any leads. That is a given. I just keep thinking of debunked Dr. Phil's remarK..."what if you were a person who is missing and you begin to think that maybe noone is looking for you"...or something to that effect...It just upsets me that everyone is just accepting this and none appears to be doing any looking for an alive person whatsoever. Whenever I bring this up everyone tells me, in the nicest of ways, that she is not alive. But there is no proof....
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| WangChung
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:54 am |
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| HannieC wrote: | | Alot of people on some blogs still have that feeling jenna, that natalee is alive. I`m one of them, although it looks more and more slim, but lots of times I thought maybe it`s just wishful thinking of me, but boy do I hope she`s alive, hell yes! |
I'm still puzzled by the lack of any remains after so many searches....and Dompig wanting to wait until April to start the next one. I imagine there is a lot he knows that he's not disclosing. 
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| jenna
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:56 am |
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| Fiery wrote: | | Jenna, all FBI offices, anywhere accept any leads. That is a given. I just keep thinking of debunked Dr. Phil's remarK..."what if you were a person who is missing and you begin to think that maybe noone is looking for you"...or something to that effect...It just upsets me that everyone is just accepting this and none appears to be doing any looking for an alive person whatsoever. Whenever I bring this up everyone tells me, in the nicest of ways, that she is not alive. But there is no proof.... |
I am telling you from personal experience. I tried to report certain information to the New York City FBI about the case. I was told in uncertain terms that absolutely no office of the FBI other than Birmingham would accept leads regarding Natalee Holloway.
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| Fiery
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:03 am |
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That is really odd. I will look it up tomorrow. Someone reported something to the Miami office from another blog. I will try and find it and cut and paste it so you can see it.
Also, that may be the one office that really has its hands full. They might have wanted to send you to Birmingham so they didn't have extra paper work.
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| Witchy Woman
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:57 am |
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| HannieC wrote: | | Alot of people on some blogs still have that feeling jenna, that natalee is alive. I`m one of them, although it looks more and more slim, but lots of times I thought maybe it`s just wishful thinking of me, but boy do I hope she`s alive, hell yes! |
I fear a day they may say Natalee is dead. 
In my heart, I hold the ultimate hope that she is alive.
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| Witchy Woman
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:00 am |
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| jenna wrote: | | Fiery wrote: | | Jenna, all FBI offices, anywhere accept any leads. That is a given. I just keep thinking of debunked Dr. Phil's remarK..."what if you were a person who is missing and you begin to think that maybe noone is looking for you"...or something to that effect...It just upsets me that everyone is just accepting this and none appears to be doing any looking for an alive person whatsoever. Whenever I bring this up everyone tells me, in the nicest of ways, that she is not alive. But there is no proof.... |
I am telling you from personal experience. I tried to report certain information to the New York City FBI about the case. I was told in uncertain terms that absolutely no office of the FBI other than Birmingham would accept leads regarding Natalee Holloway. |
I agree. All FBI offices won't take tips.
(My tips came from a horses mouth. No questions please. I turned it in.)
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| Witchy Woman
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:02 am |
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bill o'reilly.
spinmeister?
"reporting on the sad case of natalee holloway"
(just on in the last rerun of billy. need to change the channel)
ok I'm out of here.
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| DiamondDot
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:18 am |
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| Fiery wrote: | That is really odd. I will look it up tomorrow. Someone reported something to the Miami office from another blog. I will try and find it and cut and paste it so you can see it.
Also, that may be the one office that really has its hands full. They might have wanted to send you to Birmingham so they didn't have extra paper work. |
Odd, indeed. Isn't that the office where Beth/Jug have friends? I remember something about the FBI (Birmingham office) having some connection to that first McWane flight to Aruba with the Posse.
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| jmo
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:59 am |
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The "Seeking Info" FBI page says to contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. 
*Natalee's FBI Page is Here*
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| Gregor
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:05 am |
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I'm of the opinion that it would take a great deal of planning and preparation, a concerted effort and some luck to dispose of a body so thoroughly that not a single clue or shred of evidence has been found in 10 months, especially considering the wide scope of the search and investigation.
Whether Natalee is dead or alive, I think it's highly unlikely she's on Aruba.
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| Hannie
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:25 am |
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Maybe she just took a boatride with someone who was attending the SBF......People who are drunk can do very "daring" things......
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| gaia
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:45 am |
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OK, I'm going to get flamed a bit here, but I've gotta say this: I've been looking at those new pics of Natalee and her friends at that party and I'm seeing a young woman acting fairly normal for her age. Then, I'm reading and hearing she may have been in possession of drugs while on Aruba. I'm also reading she was drinking heavily that last day and had started doing this quite early. I recall the rumors of the BJ in the bathroom in high school. Now, much of this may be completely false. If not, this points to a young woman with the capability of getting fed up with her domineering mom (rumor I believe to be true) and decided to run away. I think she was certainly smart enough to do this and may be of the same ilk as those other MB kids in that she might not feel the least bit bad about leaving some people holding the bag - J2K. This is a sad, cynical view and I'm not sure how much I really believe it, but I'm considering it.
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| Highrise
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:02 am |
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This really does baffle me,but I do think she is alive just not in Aruba
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| chance
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:54 am |
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| gaia wrote: | | OK, I'm going to get flamed a bit here, but I've gotta say this: I've been looking at those new pics of Natalee and her friends at that party and I'm seeing a young woman acting fairly normal for her age. Then, I'm reading and hearing she may have been in possession of drugs while on Aruba. I'm also reading she was drinking heavily that last day and had started doing this quite early. I recall the rumors of the BJ in the bathroom in high school. Now, much of this may be completely false. If not, this points to a young woman with the capability of getting fed up with her domineering mom (rumor I believe to be true) and decided to run away. I think she was certainly smart enough to do this and may be of the same ilk as those other MB kids in that she might not feel the least bit bad about leaving some people holding the bag - J2K. This is a sad, cynical view and I'm not sure how much I really believe it, but I'm considering it. |
I agree with you totally.
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| BhamMom
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:12 am |
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Jenna,
The head of the FBI office in Birmingham lives in Mountain Brook. Does that tell you anything?
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| gaia
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:28 pm |
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Oh, my goodness, I guess I kinda remember reading about the FBI guy being from MB, but had totally forgotten it! THAT is just TOO WEIRD!
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