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Heli
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:55 pm |
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Hannity & Colmes Apr 21 TRANSCRIPT
From Hannity & Colmes (which again tonight, I missed the beginning, apologies)
NOT VERBATIM NOT COMPLETE
Bob Massi:
What struck me is the back and forth between J2K's in those tapes. They were very accusatory about Joran's father being arrested. He was talking about implicating my father, he's so concerned about his father but he has no concern about Natalee and Beth, there's such a coldness to him. Sort of like their conspiracy started falling down. They were friends, now they're going at each other, if we could hear the voice and body language it would help, but there's such a sense of arrogance I'm surprised with his father's background being what it is, that they were so willing to talk so freely.
Sean:
Linda is there anything on the tape we don't know, they seem to know they were being taped ...
Linda:
What if the father had instructed them under no circumstances give info out about implicating yourself. They start into a sentence and then...do you know what happened to the girl...it's almost as if he's coaching them there, then they get mad at each other ...
Alan
Where did the tape come from, it wasn't the Dutch authorities, it was probably from an american investigation.
Linda;
I'm not sure where it came from
Alan
Is this tape usable in court and does it really implicate anyone?
Bob Massi:
In Aruba as opposed to our country, there's no immunity, if it was our country somebody would roll over, but there I know when you listen or read the transcript, it's obvious to me they're almost dealing in this phraseology of knowledge they have..I question the authenticity of it as to not realizing they were being taped
Joran says I'll laugh if they find the girl alive, that's so insensitive, so cold and completely arrogant.
Linda:
If you read another part, they talk about Joran getting on the Kalpoes about hitting the jackpot, Deepak had called Joran and said I've fixed everything, I fixed it. You wonder what is it they fixed, is this part of the pack of lies. we do know they were last to see her, they changed their stories and they're hiding something but we don't know what it is.
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| CSI
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:59 pm |
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Thanks Heli. Last night they sounded like they might have a realization that Joran might not be guilty afterall. Beth must have contacted them, because it sounds like they are back on the koolaid again.
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| justthefactspls
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| CSI wrote: | | Thanks Heli. Last night they sounded like they might have a realization that Joran might not be guilty afterall. Beth must have contacted them, because it sounds like they are back on the koolaid again. |
I think we need to remember it's never been about truth with faux.
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| utah
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:04 pm |
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What if. Maybe. Could be. Could have. Might have. Might be. Not sure. Who knows. I think. What does it mean. What doesn't it mean.
Get the drift folks.
It's hot air. Speculation. The verbal equivilant of what you scrape out of your cat's litter box.
It's commentary without context. It's speculation in the absence of fact. It's cable news TV. It's Fox.
Nuff said.
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| Heli
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Sean Hannity is a total moron. Some of you might be surprised by this, but most interviews I can tolerate because I'm concentrating on typing BUT tonight, this drek that was coming from Hannity, Linda Allison and Bob Massi nearly did me in.
It was just over the top with regard to how they characterized Joran and the whole context of the tape. 
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| Fu-Gee-La
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:45 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | Sean Hannity is a total moron. Some of you might be surprised by this, but most interviews I can tolerate because I'm concentrating on typing BUT tonight, this drek that was coming from Hannity, Linda Allison and Bob Massi nearly did me in.
It was just over the top with regard to how they characterized Joran and the whole context of the tape. |
Heli,
You have truly earned you tiara.
I have always thought thank you, and never said it. I will say it now...
Karma can be both wonderful and horrendous. There is a wonderful lovely out there sparring with the horrendous. It is the wonderful that will become even more lovely, and the horrendous that will become even more revolting.
When the revolting are approaching the bottom, and the lovely are nearing the top- it is only then that you will truly see the brave...
You dear Brave, Heli, thank you!! As always.
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| Warrior
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:47 pm |
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This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes?
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| Fu-Gee-La
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| Warrior wrote: | This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes? |
Warrior,
It is called HOPE.
I can hope to find knights in shining armor, but in reality, one is only dodging mullet rednecks.
GITERDUN.
lol.
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| Warrior
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:52 pm |
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| Fu-Gee-La wrote: | | Warrior wrote: | This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes? |
Warrior,
It is called HOPE.
I can hope to find my night in shining armor, but in reality, I am dodging mullet rednecks.
GITERDUN.
lol. |
Well, just don't go looking for him in the Kingdom of MB, honey.
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| GeorgiaMom
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:54 pm |
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| Warrior wrote: | This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes? |
I agree Warrior. These talking heads and pro-Twitties keep second guessing Joran because he doesn't show concern for a missing girl he didn't know and her mother. If my butt was in the pokey for something I didn't do, the last thing I'd be thinking about was "oh that poor girl and her devistated mother". I'd probably be doing just what he was doing. If I didn't do it, I'd be thinking my friends did it and raising hell at them for trying to put me away for something I didn't do.
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| Warrior
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:56 pm |
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| GeorgiaMom wrote: | | Warrior wrote: | This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes? |
I agree Warrior. These talking heads and pro-Twitties keep second guessing Joran because he doesn't show concern for a missing girl he didn't know and her mother. If my butt was in the pokey for something I didn't do, the last thing I'd be thinking about was "oh that poor girl and her devistated mother". I'd probably be doing just what he was doing. If I didn't do it, I'd be thinking my friends did it and raising hell at them for trying to put me away for something I didn't do. |
Especially since it appears that Joran's two former buddies dragged Daddy into it.
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| Fu-Gee-La
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:57 pm |
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| Warrior wrote: | | Fu-Gee-La wrote: | | Warrior wrote: | This may sound cold, but why would any 17 year old hotshot like Joran care about some girl that he spent two hours with and dumped at the beach because she was a pain in the ass?
Why would he especially care about her mother, who bares a large percentage of the responsibility of him being locked up because she can't tell the difference between Joran and someone with blond hair and blue eyes? |
Warrior,
It is called HOPE.
I can hope to find my night in shining armor, but in reality, I am dodging mullet rednecks.
GITERDUN.
lol. |
Well, just don't go looking for him in the Kingdom of MB, honey. |
lol.
All anyone ever wanted to do was find their own. I suppose that is all Natalee wanted.
This is one reason I have a very high reguard for her. I don't think I could ever bring myself to blame her if she ran away. I would be mad, but I would never blame her.
I really think she was just looking for anyone/anything beyond brookie.
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| JesseLee
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:17 pm |
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| Heli wrote: | Sean Hannity is a total moron. Some of you might be surprised by this, but most interviews I can tolerate because I'm concentrating on typing BUT tonight, this drek that was coming from Hannity, Linda Allison and Bob Massi nearly did me in.
It was just over the top with regard to how they characterized Joran and the whole context of the tape. |
Totally agree with all of your points. I didn't see the show. Looks like a waste of air-time. It was bad enough to read about it.
So Massi thinks Joran is cold? I think Massi has limited intelligence. 
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| Heli
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:35 pm |
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| JesseLee wrote: | | Heli wrote: | Sean Hannity is a total moron. Some of you might be surprised by this, but most interviews I can tolerate because I'm concentrating on typing BUT tonight, this drek that was coming from Hannity, Linda Allison and Bob Massi nearly did me in.
It was just over the top with regard to how they characterized Joran and the whole context of the tape. |
Totally agree with all of your points. I didn't see the show. Looks like a waste of air-time. It was bad enough to read about it.
So Massi thinks Joran is cold? I think Massi has limited intelligence. |
.....and really a really ugly hairdo
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| Flip
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| utah wrote: | What if. Maybe. Could be. Could have. Might have. Might be. Not sure. Who knows. I think. What does it mean. What doesn't it mean.
Get the drift folks.
It's hot air. Speculation. The verbal equivilant of what you scrape out of your cat's litter box.
It's commentary without context. It's speculation in the absence of fact. It's cable news TV. It's Fox.
Nuff said. |
Why not start a new thread on this topic ?
The more I read about these prime time American shows, sorry to say, the more aversion I'm getting to the American system. Is there NO journalistic ETHICS anymore, is this what we can expect here as well, with contagion of this aberration? Double standards all around, a ratings motivated press. What happened to the TRUTH ? Is anybody there still interested in that at all ?
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| Warrior
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Flip -
Most of these talking heads are not journalists.
Don't confuse these talk shows with real news. There aren't too many real news programs that cover this case.
As I've said before, I live in the second largest city in the United States and the Holloway story is not covered here.
It's mostly a cable tv-talk show-tabloid show/rag topic.
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| Gabrielle
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| Flip wrote: | | utah wrote: | What if. Maybe. Could be. Could have. Might have. Might be. Not sure. Who knows. I think. What does it mean. What doesn't it mean.
Get the drift folks.
It's hot air. Speculation. The verbal equivilant of what you scrape out of your cat's litter box.
It's commentary without context. It's speculation in the absence of fact. It's cable news TV. It's Fox.
Nuff said. |
Why not start a new thread on this topic ?
The more I read about these prime time American shows, sorry to say, the more aversion I'm getting to the American system. Is there NO journalistic ETHICS anymore, is this what we can expect here as well, with contagion of this aberration? Double standards all around, a ratings motivated press. What happened to the TRUTH ? Is anybody there still interested in that at all ? |
Don't judge the whole by the few.
The shows we discuss here are the unethical...that's why we discuss them.
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| Fu-Gee-La
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| Gabrielle wrote: | | Flip wrote: | | utah wrote: | What if. Maybe. Could be. Could have. Might have. Might be. Not sure. Who knows. I think. What does it mean. What doesn't it mean.
Get the drift folks.
It's hot air. Speculation. The verbal equivilant of what you scrape out of your cat's litter box.
It's commentary without context. It's speculation in the absence of fact. It's cable news TV. It's Fox.
Nuff said. |
Why not start a new thread on this topic ?
The more I read about these prime time American shows, sorry to say, the more aversion I'm getting to the American system. Is there NO journalistic ETHICS anymore, is this what we can expect here as well, with contagion of this aberration? Double standards all around, a ratings motivated press. What happened to the TRUTH ? Is anybody there still interested in that at all ? |
Don't judge the whole by the few.
The shows we discuss here are the unethical...that's why we discuss them. |
Wow.
I never really thought about it like that.
All I know is that when I GET CENSORED, I GET PISSED.
am I a product that has been "branded" by HMI? Lol.
Am I the product that they "made"? lol.
That is what the "strong" underestimate about the "meek"...
enjoy the silence--- it never lasts.
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| frrp
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hello everyone..
Bob Massi:
In Aruba as opposed to our country, there's no immunity, if it was our country somebody would roll over, but there I know when you listen or read the transcript, it's obvious to me they're almost dealing in this phraseology of knowledge they have..I question the authenticity of it as to not realizing they were being taped
Joran says I'll laugh if they find the girl alive, that's so insensitive, so cold and completely arrogant. "
In my view "Joran says I'll laugh if they find the girl alive" Joran was not laughing in the sense of her being alive, when Joran said those words it was because deepak said things to him like maybe joran harmed Nat , and joran laughed and said (in my words) ha ha ha i will laugh AT you when they find her alive , which will prove you are wrong about saying those things about me .
Anyone else thought the same ?
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| Hannie
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You are absolutely right frrp!! I took it excactly the same how that was stated.
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| MF
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| frrp wrote: | hello everyone..
Bob Massi:
In Aruba as opposed to our country, there's no immunity, if it was our country somebody would roll over, but there I know when you listen or read the transcript, it's obvious to me they're almost dealing in this phraseology of knowledge they have..I question the authenticity of it as to not realizing they were being taped
Joran says I'll laugh if they find the girl alive, that's so insensitive, so cold and completely arrogant. "
In my view "Joran says I'll laugh if they find the girl alive" Joran was not laughing in the sense of her being alive, when Joran said those words it was because deepak said things to him like maybe joran harmed Nat , and joran laughed and said (in my words) ha ha ha i will laugh AT you when they find her alive , which will prove you are wrong about saying those things about me .
Anyone else thought the same ? |
Thank you, I guess it is also the way the ALE thought.
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