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Should Michael Vick Play Football Again?
No - never!
84%
 84%  [ 11 ]
Yes - absolutely!
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
Yes - after he serves his sentence.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Yes - if he can prove remorse and atone for his sins.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other.
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 13

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SavannahStar PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:46 am

tulsad wrote:
I don't believe that a case could be made that people who participate in dogfighting are more likely to be murderers of humans.


I haven't read where anyone is trying to make that case, have you? Rolling Eyes

(Although it is a well known fact that serial killers were often animal abusers in their youth......)

Double edged sword here: we have the dogfighting itself which does go hand-in-hand with other criminal activity; then we have the actual peripheral brutality toward the dogs (electrocution, hanging, etc.) which certainly in this particular case has been proven.

The possible connection to a murder doesn't surprise me one bit. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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juno1 PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:51 pm

The Vick Divide: An ESPN Town Hall

Broadcast tonight from ATL w/ live audience...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=3152

Updated: Sep. 20, 2007, 3:42 PM
The Vick Divide: An ESPN Town Hall


Will Michael Vick's star status have an impact on his prison sentence?The Michael Vick dogfighting saga may be winding down in the courtroom following Vick's guilty plea but the passion and intensity of those who have an opinion on the matter is not subsiding. In fact, it might be increasing as the sentencing date nears.

On Tuesday, Sept. 25, ESPN will convene a live Town Meeting in Atlanta to examine the repercussions of the story that shocked the city and the nation. With Vick facing a possible jail sentence for his role in an illegal dogfighting enterprise and the NFL season underway, "The Vick Divide -- An ESPN Town Meeting (6 p.m. ET, ESPN)" will focus on how Vick's situation has divided Atlanta -- in some cases along racial lines -- whether he was treated fairly, if his apology was sincere, and his chances of returning to the NFL.

The SportsCenter Special, hosted by Bob Ley with a panel of personalities and newsmakers, will originate from the Sydney Marcus Auditorium and feature live audience participation, as well as your comments. The show will address the involvement of athletes with dogfighting and the status of the investigation, as well as what lessons can be learned from Vick's situation, and how Atlanta can move past the issue.

Topics to be discussed on "The Vick Divide: An ESPN Town Hall" include . . .


How has Michael Vick been treated by the media?

How have the emotionally charged aspects of dogfighting influenced public opinion?

What role has race played in the prosecution of Vick?

What is the long-term impact for the NFL and did the league react appropriately?

Can Vick rehabilitate his image and reputation?

What does the future hold for Vick both on the field and off?

Below are several poll questions to help gauge your feelings on the issue. Cast your votes as the results will be featured during the show.




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SavannahStar PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:01 pm

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Can Vick rehabilitate his image and reputation?


No way. Absolutely not. An animal abuser doesn't change, no more so than a pedophile. You can only "control" him, you cannot "cure" him.

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What does the future hold for Vick both on the field and off?


Oh he's dead meat. 100%. He'll never ever pay pro football again. His life is over. He'll hit rock bottom in not too many years.
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juno1 PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:05 pm

I took the poll...here are the results

The Vick Divide: An ESPN Town Hall

Thank you for voting. See below for the results from across SportsNation.

Watch "The Vick Divide: An ESPN Town Hall'' on Tuesday, Sept. 25 at 6 p.m. ET on ESPN.

Click here to return to ESPN.com's NFL index.


1) On July 17, Michael Vick was indicted by a federal grand jury. Six days later, Vick was ordered to not attend camp until further review of the dogfighting charges. After his guilty plea on August 27th, Vick was suspended indefinitely. How would you describe the NFL's response to the dogfighting investigation of Michael Vick?


73.4% They acted appropriately

17.9% They took action too soon

8.7% They waited too long to take action


2) A consortium of animal rights groups has recommended a prison sentence of 4 years, 9 months for Vick. What is your opinion of this sentence?


61.5% Too harsh

26.0% Just right

12.4% Too light


3) Should Vick be allowed to play in the NFL again?


70.6% Yes

29.4% No


4) After he completes his jail sentence, would you want Vick to play for your team?


58.9% No

41.1% Yes


5) Which activity that athletes have participated in is most objectionable to you?


31.5% Gambling on own sport

29.8% Performance-enhancing drugs

27.9% Dogfighting

10.7% Recreational drugs


6) Which scandal has impacted its sport the most?


50.9% MLB: Performance-enhancing drugs

34.3% NBA: Gambling by referee Tim Donaghy

14.8% NFL: Michael Vick and dogfighting


7) How did Michael Vick's news conference following his guilty plea, in which he apologized for his actions, impact your opinion of him?


54.6% Unchanged

32.8% Favorably

12.6% Unfavorably


Cool Do you believe Vick is sincerely sorry for what he did?


54.8% No

45.2% Yes


9) How will Michael Vick's star status impact his prison sentence?


51.8% Less jail time

27.6% No impact

20.6% More jail time


10) In addition to his prison sentence, how long should the NFL suspend Michael Vick?


43.1% No additional time

30.1% 1 to 2 seasons

21.0% Lifetime ban

5.8% More than 2 seasons


11) Was Michael Vick unfairly singled out?


62.1% No

37.9% Yes


12) If so, what was the primary reason you believe he was singled out?


45.5% Because he is a celebrity

31.1% Because dogfighting needs a scapegoat

23.4% Because he is black


Total Votes: 57,354




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SavannahStar PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:07 pm

TY juno!
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